Man I go away for just a little while and Sennheiser drops stuff out of the blue. Can't wait to hear it.

Given the 30 and Senns 490 Pro are both using at least parts of the 560S driver, which is the better implementation? Is the 30 worth considerably more money?

Rather than resurrect dead 660S (original) threads I'll just ask here: What's a reasonable NIB price for an S? (My backup)

try the new 560S and report back.

I'm exceedingly curious about the 660S2, but the revision of the 560S sounds great at this price point. I'm curious to know if the 660S2 has this clarity.

Glad I bought two Irish units back in the day.

I've read in a couple different reviews now that some people think the 490 has a nasal quality, especially to women's vocals. Is anyone here experiencing that?

So out of curiosity I bought another. This is the supposed revision, with the shorter cable that terminates in a 3.5 with an adapter on it. I don't know what they did, but it doesn't have the tinny voices that really annoyed me before. It's not as revealing as an HD600 or similar, but the...

I've always complained they piss bass on everything. It's the only 6 series I have actively disliked. The 600 is a completely different and much better headphone. Siblings in graph only.

It sounds small and feeble. It sounds clean once you turn off filtering, but that's the only upside. I was not impressed. An atom stack is immensely better. I'm not going to pretend I liked something when something else marginally more money to anyone in the states is a better buy.

hah. states away :D my time is limited due to family obligation anyway. it's life, no biggie :) maybe the ignorance keeps me happier.

Man I live in the rural south. I don't have the ability to just randomly go out and listen to product like many other people do. Everything has to be bought and shipped, absolutely everything. It would be super nice to have a store or something nearby to listen to product, but it's just not to...

I'm going to end up buying one of these things at some point and telling you or Hengstenberg off, because your opinions are polar opposites. ;P

If I can't get it out of solid state I don't want it. Tubes are widely expensive for good ones and the amps are space heaters. Just never gonna happen for me. Others can do what they want. Those are my objections.

I got one and it's the biggest piece of garbage I've seen in some time. I had to fight forever for windows to recognize it. uac-1, uac-2, didn't matter. loaded drivers. got intermittent cut out back to my monitor speaker. which ever review said it was sibilant was absolutely correct. I had to...

Stop saying "kind of" :)

See this is good information for me. I returned an 800S. It was a very expensive waste. I see it as a one trick pony with the staging that makes people willing to overlook the faults. I also felt like I was in the nose bleed seats at a stadium while listening to absolutely everything and that...

Sennheiser: if you can make a 600 a bit more clear with the 560 sound stage that's all anyone really wants. HD601. It would sell like crazy. I refuse to believe after all this time there's not enough trickle down technology to accomplish this.

Yes. Absolutely get a 600.

lol. dude. you were all about it for a hot minute there.

Because I've seen it a couple times now I'm going to need someone to explain how one dac chip can supposedly not present all the detail that another can. It should be impossible in 2024 for that to be the case. Even the low end is great tech afaik.

I have no problem with the 660S and the S2 seemingly has a large number of people very much in love with it. They were developed by Sennheiser, not Sonova.

this is a headphone forum, sir

I can't unsee those pink pants.

Now that's a bold statement. They really need to send one of those on tour or something.