Jabra Elite 10s. They are an improvement over the standard tips too.

It is fully disengaged but… today lots of other stuff are separate but connected to noise cancelling such as fit adjustments or adaptive eq or adaptive transparency etc etc. These may or may not be turned off.

Bluetooth isn’t just a radio transmission protocol. Bluetooth is a whole stack of application and low level audio level stuff from codec negotiation to pause/play to battery level to volume control, and more. One of these are protocols that determine whether you are using the TWS as a headset...

If you want to pass Bluetooth certification then you need to have a microphone. Admittedly it can be terrible… ANC today doesn’t significantly really change the amount of electronics but does add more microphones (etc.) and signal processing.

I’m using the ones from the QCii on the Elite 10. It has made a big difference to me.

Funny, I used to travel before ANC on TWS got acceptable, with the QC25s and Etymotic ER4s…

My advice is buy the cheaper Bose QCii which are almost the same for noise cancelling and have almost the same sound, if that’s all you are after. (See my previous posts on ANC for my experience). It has lots of bugs though as documented frequently here but for $199 or $149 refurb they are good...

LC3 is mandatory if the device supports LE Audio so Samsung can’t exclude it if they declare it supports LE Audio to the Bluetooth SIG. This looks like a bug to me.

In the case of mine in the London Underground it was the ANC not Bluetooth for sure. I can believe that occasional sounds are better on the Ultras if they changed the processor, or fixed bugs. Reminder: ANC is extremely difficult and expensive to test which is why you see lots of variation...

I’ve found the QC2 to be inconsistent in ANC reduction depending seeming on how they feel when you take them out of the case or whether they correctly detect the noise. I’ve had them suppress chatter wonderfully on a plane and at other times fail miserably. When they work they are great but when...

P Dolby Atmos and other similar schemes treat sound as objects so when constructing the sound you can place each sound object in 3D space. This is how you hear a helicopter coming towards you and flying over your head in a good Atmos system, since the sound has been placed to be in front, then...

I just got the Jabra Elite 10 to replace some 1More Evos for listening on Zoom calls on non Apple devices. They fitted me OK but at a previous suggestion here swapped with the QC2 tips and they fit much better. The ANC is improved too which I find to be good enough but no more. They are as...

Thank you for thinking of me. I decided that as I have the QC 2 earbuds and the Ultras are pretty much the same for ANC and just as bad for calls, there’s no point side-grading. The QC2 at $199 or less than $150 refurb are good value if ANC is your thing.

Would you be able to compare ANC between the headphones and the buds? The measurements by Argena on YouTube seem to show the earbuds are better (and that the QC2 the same as the Ultra)… and unlike others, ANC is critical for me so, is the size of the Ultras a worthwhile trade off to the QC2 for...

The Ultras look to be similar to my QC2 which are good enough when it is quiet but my experience outside when walking next to a street is they are poor. I’d concur with the tests…I put on my APP2 when I want to talk and walk. Having said that the fit, the aware mode, the lack of ‘thump’ and the...

LC3plus lower latency is non optimal on Bluetooth because of the radio layer and 96/24 was added to the Bluetooth SIG license. The concealment spoken about is a way to hide errors at a radio level so they are not heard. It is neat engineering with some trade offs that might not make sense for...

A codec. speaking as a ex-codec engineer, is meant to be transparent at a certain bandwidth… so no, LC3 or any other codec will not change sound quality unless it has failed to do it’s designed job or has not been given the resources to do its job. LC3 is primarily about efficiency for the same...

The Audeze has multiple radios and LC3 Plus is for the non Bluetooth ones. The marketing isn’t clear on that but Fraunhofer who owns LC3 are very clear. It is a good use of LC3 Plus too and what it was designed for, since they can shave a few milliseconds off latency which is useful for gaming.

LC3 Plus doesn’t exist for Bluetooth, it’s meant for other radio types. LC3 as used with Bluetooth SIG compliant devices is 96/24 max anyways.

The version of LC3 for Bluetooth is capable of 96/24 which at a slightly better quality than equivalent LDAC was measured around 256Kbits/sec. LC3 is the default and mandatory codec for all LE-Audio implementations. It is therefore the equivalent to SBC but far more modern and capable.

https://www.sony.net/Products/LDAC/ scroll to the bottom….you’ll see the steps. I engineer stuff (not headphones or audio equipment today, I stress) and you are right that some certs are easy to get and others aren’t. I don’t think you can expect that because one is easy, all are easy… I...

I didn’t mean my post to imply anything with respect to Intellectual Property. Let‘s try to clarify here. Samsung and Sony compete in many areas outside headphones. Perhaps Samsung would not like to give Sony advance notice of a future product for marketing reasons?

Oh if only it was a simple as that… whilst LDAC as an encoder is open source, the decoder remains closed source… which needs to be paid for and you need to send for compliance testing. If you send it for testing you are telling Sony beforehand what you are going to ship. Maybe you don’t want...

Last night I was watching something on my Tablet with the QC2s, my wife spoke, I took them out of my ears, put them back and the noise cancelling was half of what it was. Put them back in the case for a reset, took them out, and everything was back to normal. This seems quite usual together with...

It is a logical thought and true that encoding is part of the latency. However, I don’t believe the AAC encoder has changed significantly in that time… What has changed is that the encoding now has its own encoder in the hardware, mostly to save battery power. Also, the AAC that is used in TWS...