hey roskodan! You happen to own the Clears and find my points not valid? Could you elaborate?

Curious what is the difference between a "mastering engineer" and an "audio engineer"? Seems your findings are completely off tangent to this other person who might be in the same field as you.

This is the worst review ever typed out. Don't give advice, ever again. You have no clue.

You gave it only 2 stars and the only negatives you have are about cables and placement? Totally illegitimate review.

@descloud There are many types of audio engineers speciallizing in totally different things... in the music world it is mostly: recording engineer, mixing engineer, mastering engineer, live sound engineer etc etc. Than there are many in the film/TV industry: 'sound recordist', in post production dialogue editor, mixer, etc etc etc etc
@robm321 Yawoll Herr, Kommandant! I will never talk to another person in my life again - going away in the woods to become a hermit.
@trevinthefionaapplefan yep... as the tonal balance changes so much with placement it is quite useless for reference work (granted this might be a feature for a headphone collector... more than one tonal character in one pair of headphones). Also, working in these is quite impossible because of the cable noise. And yes, two stars: as the title sais: "for the money..."

Sounds like you made up your mind in advance that you didn't like them because as you say you don't care for hifi folklore.

@JoeTho I don't see any logic in what you are saying

Ridiculous "review".

get lost man.