[karloil]

I'm curious the most about in-depth Pilgrim vs the Noir version comparisons the most. Anyone got them?

I have the Noir on order and have extensively demoed the Pilgrim. Will try to give feedback once I receive my set.

I'm on the other side of the fence here, holding back in purchasing the Pilgrim until I hear the Noir.

 

[rodiobobo]

The graph seems insanely perfect!

 

[firesign]

Although the graph is really good, reading the reviews it looks like shouty as hell (upper mids I mean)...

 

[o0genesis0o]

Although the graph is really good, reading the reviews it looks like shouty as hell (upper mids I mean)...

Not really. If anything, the upper mid sounds recessed, which is unexpected from an Elysian IEM. This is no Gaea.

Tbh, I want a bit more shout. It’s not Elysian IEM without shoutiness

 

[firesign]

Not really. If anything, the upper mid sounds recessed, which is unexpected from an Elysian IEM. This is no Gaea.

Tbh, I want a bit more shout. It’s not Elysian IEM without shoutiness

So the reviews are lying?

 

[o0genesis0o]

So the reviews are lying?

Which one are you talking about? Afaik, @Jaytiss also finds that pilgrim upper mid is slightly recessed.

Edit: to me, it has characteristics of the U12t with MX module (the least bassy one). Flat midrange, slightly recessed upper mid, subbass and upper treble boost, though the way Pilgrim boosts upper treble is different from U12t.

 

[firesign]

Which one are you talking about? Afaik, @Jaytiss also finds that pilgrim upper mid is slightly recessed.

Edit: to me, it has characteristics of the U12t with MX module (the least bassy one). Flat midrange, slightly recessed upper mid, subbass and upper treble boost, though the way Pilgrim boosts upper treble is different from U12t.

Well, OK, not upper mids but lower treble. They say 5-6 kHz area is too bright.
Jaytiss even EQ them with -4 dBs...

But, wow, I had the U12t, and with the MX is definitely not my thing. Too plain, almost no bass. I better forget about it

 

[o0genesis0o]

Well, OK, not upper mids but lower treble. They say 5-6 kHz area is too bright.
Jaytiss even EQ them with -4 dBs...

But, wow, I had the U12t, and with the MX is definitely not my thing. Too plain, almost no bass. I better forget about it

It’s a flat IEM with subbass rumble and tight bass attack. Dry, if you will. At first I didn’t notice the subbass rumble until I tried the right track and some games. It picks up a subbass rumble in my current game that I didn’t notice before.

 

[atechreviews]

Although the graph is really good, reading the reviews it looks like shouty as hell (upper mids I mean)...

I concur with o0genesis0o. It's not shouty at all; if anything, as I mentioned in my review, it's a bit reserved. I would describe the upper midrange as restrained. It could be described as slightly recessed, a description I would agree with.