[theaudiologist]

holy smokes

Fiio Q1:
Line Out
＜0.003% (1 kHz/10kΩ) SNR ≥110 dB (A-weighted)
Frequency Response 6 Hz~80 kHz（-3dB） Channel Separation ＞90 dB (1 kHz)
Headphone out specifications (3.5mm headphone out jack)
Output Power 1 ≥112 mW（16Ω / THD+N＜1%) Output Impedance ＜1.2Ω (32Ω loaded)
Output Power 2 ≥75mW（32Ω /THD+N＜1%) Channel Separation ≥79 dB (1 kHz，AUX IN)
Output Power 3 ≥11 mW（300Ω / THD+N＜1%) THD+N ＜0.002% (1 kHz, AUX IN)
＜0.003% (1 kHz, USB IN)
Frequency Response 5 Hz~55 kHz（-3dB） Peak Output Voltage ＞4.4 Vp-p
SNR ≥116 dB (A-weighted, AUX IN)
≥109 dB (A-weighted, USB IN) Max. Output Current 150mA (For reference)
Gain -2.5dB (G=L)
3.2dB （G=H） Max Input Level 3.4V



Ifi nano IDSD BL:

Headphone Amplifier
Amplifier: Dual Mono 2 x 285mW Direct Drive, coupling capacitor free circuit for highest fidelity
Volume Control: 3.5mm TRRS with Balanced compatible wiring
Dynamic Range(including DAC): > 109dB(A) @ 3v (Direct)
> 107dB(A) @ 0.5V (iEMatch®)
THD &N (@ 125mW/30R): < 0.005%
Max. Output (<10% THD): > 3.5V @ 600Ω Load (Direct) (20mW/600Ω)
> 2.9V @ 30Ω Load (Direct) (285mW/30Ω)
> 1.7V @ 15Ω Load (Direct) (200mW/15Ω)
Output Impedance : < = 1Ω (Direct)
< = 4Ω (iEMatchsup>®)
Channel Separation: > 79dB @ 600Ω Load (Direct)
> 79dB @ 15Ω Load (Direct) (1kHz, TRRS plug Balanced wiring)
Line Output
Dynamic Range(Line): > 109dB(A)
THD & N(0dBFS Line): < 0.004%
Output Voltage(Line): : 2.15V (+/-0.05V)
Output Impedance: < 240Ω
Channel Separation: > 99dB (@ 1kHz)
Jitter(correlated): Below test set limit
Dimensions: 96(l) x 64(w) x 25.5(h)mm
Weight: 139g (0.31 Ibs)
Warranty period: 12months



The Fiio Q1 MK II has better THD+N and a better dynamic range at half the price, the nano has a better amp but i don't really need it and can get an A5 separately. I also hope Ifi releases the frequency response of the nano.

 

[BB 808]

But does the Fiio Q1 do MQA?

 

[Charente]

@theaudiologist ... could you clarify if the figures you gave for the FiiO Q1 are for the Mk 1 or the new Mk 2 ?

 

[theaudiologist]

@theaudiologist ... could you clarify if the figures you gave for the FiiO Q1 are for the Mk 1 or the new Mk 2 ?

mk2

 

[theaudiologist]

But does the Fiji Q1 do MQA?

to hell with MQA

 

[TimeSnow]

to hell with MQA

So funny, I'm subscribed to two threads here that are discussing MQA.

One is someone talking about how it sounds better than FLAC rips, the other is saying it's all smoke.

Personally I think it sounds great, but the smoke arguments are relatively convincing.

I guess I'll probably just enjoy it and not stop because of the people saying it's a scam.

Buy everyone should probably listen for themselves and decide.

 

[BB 808]

to hell with MQA

Ok then you should look elsewhere like http://m.fiio.net/en/products/76
https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/fiio-q1-mark-ii-apple-mfi-certified-dac-amp.22526/

 

[DarwinOSX]

I would also like to know if it is rendering or full decoding especially since it is apparently still beta.

to hell with MQA

Heh, no MQA no sale for me. MQA sounds great and I would love to see more of it.
I sent iFi an e-mail asking if it is a renderer or does the full unfold as my Meridian 2 does.​

 

[DarwinOSX]

tried it for around 2 hrs at stereo today.
its good but its no mojo killer.
I think that it could have done with a gain switch instead of the filter switch. it can be too powerful for sensitive iems. has channel imbalance at low volume.
the sound is pretty energetic and spacious but i feel it can lack some low end on certain tracks where i expected more thump.
what kills it for me is the less common connector for charging and connection.\
would still buy for use with headphones

Considering its $199 and the Mojo is $499 nobody should expect it to be. Plus the Mojo has colored marbles.

 

[theaudiologist]

Ok then you should look elsewhere like http://m.fiio.net/en/products/76
https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/fiio-q1-mark-ii-apple-mfi-certified-dac-amp.22526/

So funny, I'm subscribed to two threads here that are discussing MQA.

One is someone talking about how it sounds better than FLAC rips, the other is saying it's all smoke.

Personally I think it sounds great, but the smoke arguments are relatively convincing.

I guess I'll probably just enjoy it and not stop because of the people saying it's a scam.

Buy everyone should probably listen for themselves and decide.

what advantages does MQA have anyway?

 

[DarwinOSX]

what advantages does MQA have anyway?

That is a whole other subject that has been beat to death many times. if you don't know then why make a gratuitous post in the first place.

 

[Whitigir]

It really blows my mind that a Single ended can be said to be just as good as Balanced because it has joined Ground

 

[Demo3]

That is a whole other subject that has been beat to death many times. if you don't know then why make a gratuitous post in the first place.

Yes... please no discussion about MQA sound in this thread... except to the extent that the nano iDSD Black Label has it. In the future we could compare nano iDSD MQA to other MQA devices.

 

[TimeSnow]

what advantages does MQA have anyway?

I'm not saying you should like MQA. Or that anyone should.

But I don't see the harm in giving it a listen and deciding if you like it.

That's not a crazy idea, right?

 

[theaudiologist]

That is a whole other subject that has been beat to death many times. if you don't know then why make a gratuitous post in the first place.

I was just saying that i don't really care if a dac has mqa or not, since it is for streaming (i think) and I don't stream. if someone else likes it, good for them. i just want to see how it sounds.

I'm not saying you should like MQA. Or that anyone should.

But I don't see the harm in giving it a listen and deciding if you like it.

That's not a crazy idea, right?

:
i have a feeling MQA will just be another way of selling you the same recordings over and over again: LP, remastered LP, 8-Track, SACD, 24-bit, DSD Remaster, and now MQA.