My post was regarding both HD800 and HD800S. They are bascially the same headphone, the HD800S just has a reduced treble spike. I had the HD800S, and yes, the bass is bad for its price. The bass texture is good, yes, but anything more than that is not what this headphone is going for. The mids are also not that great to be honest. Treble is very good and extremely detailed, but that spike can be a nuisance. For me the only things that headphone has going for it are the huge soundstage, which i feel is inflated and not natural, because every instrument sounds very small, it's like a galaxy where you see small blinking stars, but they all are so tiny compared to the empty room they are placed it. The second and for me best thing about the HD800S was the imaging, it was so laser accurate which i haven't heard before.
Exactly what i'm saying. Decent in a bubble, but for the price it's really just bad. Listen to a different (popular) headphone in that 1500-2000€ price range. For its pricepoint of 1800€ the HD800S cannot compete in terms of bass (and mids in my opinion) to any of its competitors. Hifiman, Focal, Audeze, etc, grab a headphone for ~1800€ from them and compare the bass. I didn't want to derail the thread because this is NOT about the HD800S. Go to the HD800S thread.
I doubt it, but i will see about that myself. You're not only saying "well", but "very well". Have you listened to them and compared them to a headphone that we all know actually slams? In that pricepoint? I'm not talking about an HD6XX, i'm talking about something in that 7-10k€+ region. I checked a few posts of yours, and you seem to be a Stax guy, everytime i listened to any of them at shows, i just immediately take them of when something is playing that needs actual dynamics. I remember listening to the X9000 and was completely underwhelmed when i heard "We will rock you" by Queen on them, it sounded completely dead (same as DCA btw). That does not mean they sound bad in general, they just sound bad to me. For me personally, i need way better dynamics to enjoy my 70% rock & metal library.
In contrary, i don't need more details than a Susvara, which i'm sure the Immanis has, but if it sacrifices too much (dynamics), it's a no-go for me.
Deep bass is about extension and rumble, upper bass is more about dynamics and slam. Both of these are separate from bass texture. I would even argue that a perfectly well driven Susvara is only good at slam, not exceptional, while its bass texture (that's the realism part which people say the Immanis is really good at) is a 10/10, its dynamics (that's the fun factor) can't be more than an 8/10 on any gear. A 1266 / Utopia / Valkyria runs circles around it in that regard.
From what i've read the Immanis never was intented to be the dynamic bass slam monster, which is probably not even possible with a ribbon headphone. The guy that makes them even warns people to EQ the bass.
From all i read, the Immanis is a step up from a Stax headphones, but can't touch a planar in the dynamic department, but it has the better technical aspects in comparison.
In the end i will need to hear it myself (in my room, with my music, with a comparison to the Susvara), reading impressions only can get me so far. Also people tend to cope about their expensive gear they just bought (that's why buying and selling used is so desirable, it eliminates that factor to a degree).
And 1-bedrooms start around $1M now, or $6k/month rent.
