the earcup cushions are totally flat as well as the headrest cushion.

i need to find somebody to refurbish my 30 year old pair.

I have large ears and they are exquisitely uncomfortable, I believe they are best for people with average/small ears. bass is thin. not especially sensitive. a lot of transparency otherwise, for the price.

^^^am very interested in hearing your description of the sound quality difference between the 600s and the 580s you got.

^^​^ or in the case of this old man, somewhat less.

as long as you don't mind, it doesn't matter. :)

can you say why you feel out of place?

i've owned the 560 model since the early 90s, and while they are my preferred set of cans for general music listening, they lack a certain transparency needed for remastering work, for which i use the HD580s. but no other headphones let me listen for hours without "ear burn" or sore ears, they...

aren't they both made in china?

I have both the 580 as well as the 565 model, and the latter is [compared to the 580] less transparent, a bit more prominent in the midrange, a tiny bit less extreme treble, a bit mellower on difficult material [poorly recorded, comparatively harsh-sounding recordings such as 78 rpm records]...

high-enders might sniff at this, but at my local goodwill store I found a dusty grimy long-neglected pair of MCS 8330 "time aligned" 3-way bass-reflex speakers [12" woofer], and out of curiosity I hooked them up to an amp and played some music through them and found them to be surprisingly...