Yeah, I am spending way too much time reading this thread. I may decide to unwatch and check back in a few weeks when some more real humans have heard these new Sus!

I own and am a Sus fan who bought new. I did not pay close to full retail of $6K and it certainly hasn't 'lost half it's value every year'. :thinking:

You are a fan of ZMF, Senn and Focal, and not HM, GREAT! Why post here and tell others how crappy HM is?

I have read many of your posts and assume you are serious and this is not a tongue in cheek post. I'm having a hard time understanding how 'a piece of dander or dust particle' could punch a hole through the membrane but perhaps this is a real concern. If I do buy the new Sus, I don't think I...

I take very good care of all my audio gear and store all hp in hard cases when not in use. Some folks are tough on their gear and they may be more prone to damage these hp.......time will tell!

I may be an outlier here but I have 0 interest in measurements. I understand what they indicate, but I prefer to read posts by Head-Fiers I trust and what they actually heard over graphs.

Good to hear! I have the Envy (+Elrog TM) with DAVE / M scaler and like the combo. Looking forward to getting the Immanis!

I think you will find the TM hype is for real!

I haven't heard of a cost that high :thinking: but who knows????

I also have part 'E' (w/ Elrogs) and will have part 'I' as well! :upside_down:

I have this vision of Alex, dressed up in full Santa attire, delivering amazing sounding goodies all over the globe! :santa:

I think I may be that guy, @nfandi.......... I have not heard any Raal hp so the Immanis will be my first Ribbon Rodeo Ride. There are several posts from Head-fiers I have followed for years that I trust who own or have heard the Immanis and I am happy to take a chance based on their ears and...

That is Hilarious........I LOVE it! I am a happy Sus owner with Dave, MS and Envy. I will be getting a Immanis at some point and time will tell if the Sus goes or can hang out and play with the Raal!

I have until the 4th quarter to get funds lined up to snag the Q,MS........ So, when do I sell my current M scaler????:thinking:

@Hiker816, thank you for your very well written and detailed comparison of the new Raal hp. Like most here, I ordered the Immanis but wondered if the Magna might be the better choice for me. I listen to very little classical, more rock, classic rock and some alternative and this may be closer...