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[capetownwatches]

Don’t feel bad. I just like the idea of a compact all in one, and the R-28 doesn’t seem to make any compromises either. But the separates stack is going to be awesome, and you get more flexibility with it as well.

At the price the NFB-1 + R2R 1 stack is an audio bargain of note, and is the way I would consider going rather than the AIO route.
I prefer seperate PSU's and the awesome flexibility that the stack offers.

I can fully appreciate the appeal of the R-28 to those preferring the neat and tidy approach.
I like going up rather than sideways though!

Looking forward to some hands-on feedback on this beast!

 

[gLer]

At the price the NFB-1 + R2R 1 stack is an audio bargain of note, and is the way I would consider going rather than the AIO route.
I prefer seperate PSU's and the awesome flexibility that the stack offers.

I can fully appreciate the appeal of the R-28 to those preferring the neat and tidy approach.
I like going up rather than sideways though!

Looking forward to some hands-on feedback on this beast!

Until the R-28 was announced (and don’t forget it’s been less than a week) I was of the same mind - going up (from an AIO like the R2R-11) meant getting a separate high-powered balanced amp and dac. That’s still a reasonable position, and there are advantages to separates no doubt. But to my mind (and for my purposes) the R-28 looks to be, even at this early stage, a gamechanger. A no-compromise AIO that actually *improves* on the separates it combines.

Now we wait to see if it lives up to its promise, and if it does, game over.

 

[DaaDaa]

really instead of conjecture only listening will really tell us. because clean power (and therefore power supply) is very important to the SQ but also shortening the signal path as a result of going AIO so really depends on the implementation. i cant wait to give it a listen and hope for a sound signature like the r2r11

 

[FredA]

Until the R-28 was announced (and don’t forget it’s been less than a week) I was of the same mind - going up (from an AIO like the R2R-11) meant getting a separate high-powered balanced amp and dac. That’s still a reasonable position, and there are advantages to separates no doubt. But to my mind (and for my purposes) the R-28 looks to be, even at this early stage, a gamechanger. A no-compromise AIO that actually *improves* on the separates it combines.

Now we wait to see if it lives up to its promise, and if it does, game over.

There is at least a new feature: same output power single-ended and balanced. Ant the transfo is a 50w or bigger, not sure. I think there is a very good chance it will be awesome. To get a signature similar to the r2r 11, one will need to use it in nos mode.i expect it won't be exactly the same.

 

[Currawong]

I think a lot of it will come down to the headphone amp section.

 

[VintageFlanker]

I think a lot of it will come down to the headphone amp section.

I published a R-28 thread on French Forum "Tellement Nomade" in the amp section, due to the analog inputs.

 

[Astral Abyss]

Hmmm, 5% off sale going on right now for "finished products". Wonder if that includes the R-28?

 

[capetownwatches]

Hmmm, 5% off sale going on right now for "finished products". Wonder if that includes the R-28?

Email Kingwa and ask. Let us all know...

 

[Astral Abyss]

Email Kingwa and ask. Let us all know...

Well, I guess there's no need. He's updating the website to include all the costs pre-calculated with different options and shipping. It's happening right now.
By my calculations, the R-28 price quote now listed on the audio-gd website of $1150 shipped to USA, w/TCXO upgrade, does indeed include the 5% discount. It would be about $1200 without the discount, if my maths are correct.

 

[JoeDoe]

Well, I guess there's no need. He's updating the website to include all the costs pre-calculated with different options and shipping. It's happening right now.
By my calculations, the R-28 price quote now listed on the audio-gd website of $1150 shipped to USA, w/TCXO upgrade, does indeed include the 5% discount. It would be about $1200 without the discount, if my maths are correct.

Right you are! I know from experience...

 

[XIST_]

Really debating getting this, but also considering the NFB 29.38. Going to mostly use SE but might buy a balanced cable for my HD800S (I bought used so it didn't come with one). Also planning on using IEM (hopefully the Andromeda soon) with it. Anyone have any insight?

 

[FredA]

The r-28 is more versatile. Also it really depends on whether you prefer prefer the r2r or the delta-sigma sound. But as i often mention, if you can do a software conversion to dsd on the fly, the audio-gd r2r dacs will sound like delta-sigmas. And you have 3 nos modes to choose from on top of that.

 

[Wilddude]

Can any give me an idea of how much improvement would be seen with the R2R-28 vs the R2R-11? Would there be a truly noticeable improvement with the substantially higher costs system?

 

[FredA]

Can any give me an idea of how much improvement would be seen with the R2R-28 vs the R2R-11? Would there be a truly noticeable improvement with the substantially higher costs system?

You will get better dynamics, sharper attacks. A better soundstage as well. But you most likely will need a very good transport to extract the best out of it. The beauty of the r2r 11 is it sound amazing through the on-board usb input. The signal path is not as direct with the dacs with a dsp board. So you need a source with very low noise level and jitter level to maximize sound quality. At least, that is the case with the r2r 7. The r2r-1 and r-28 should be somewhere in between.