Dan Clark Audio, Schiit Audio, and Antlion Audio "Hel Yeah!" Bundle
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Bundle review for the Open and Closed versions posted on headphone.guru here: https://headphone.guru/dan-clark-audio-hel-yeah-home-office-gaming-video-and-music-bundle-review/
"Often anticipation spoils the delivery, but not so in this case. I suspect those unfamiliar with Dan Clark Audio or Schiit Audio will be overwhelmed with how good a $650 system can sound."
"Often anticipation spoils the delivery, but not so in this case. I suspect those unfamiliar with Dan Clark Audio or Schiit Audio will be overwhelmed with how good a $650 system can sound."
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XMarsX
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My new headphones arrived today. It arrived with four different inserts. One and two notch whites, black foam and then a black felt feeling insert. Is there a quick run down listing the differences?
There should be a short summary of least to most on the bag inside if not someone forgot, but it's simple. Black foam is least, black felt middle, one notch more and two notch white the most.
Per the requests for more info on the original AEON Flow vs the RT editions, here you go. Measured on our GRAS/Audio Precision setup. This is a duplicate post to the one I made in the RT thread here. If you have specific questions on the headphone please use that thread so I don't have to duplicate efforts.
This is AEON Flow Closed (Purple) vs AEON Flow RT, Closed (Green)
The obvious major difference between the closed models is the bass boost of 4dB below 150Hz, with the 2dB dip from 150-210Hz. This gives a sizeable increase in bass output, obviously. The original tuning was designed to be very "reference," but since those days we've voiced all our headphones to have more thump to be both more "fun" and to be more perceptually flat, vs measurement flat.
This is AEON Flow Open (Green) vs AEON Flow RT, Open (Red).
There are two difference in AEON Flow RT, Open vs AEON Flow, Open, namely the obvious increase of almost 5dB in sub bass, and the ~4dB output in the upper midrange. The RT tuning is pretty close to the Harmon curve.
Perceptually, the difference between the AFCRTC and the AFCRTO is that the AFCRTO will be a bit more Harmon curve, with a lot more upper bass/lower midrange warmth and more upper midrange energy. Paradoxically, the leaner and more linear delivery in the closed is what often makes people say the Closed sounds more "open" than the Open version. My $0.02 is that is not true, what happens is having more energy in this region makes vocals and instruments sound larger and thus closer, however, if you listen to the depth of field like echos and reverb, the Open headphone reaches deeper into space. After many years, I came to the conclusion based on talking to many people that a lot of people think of soundstage as how far away the closest instrument/voice is, while others think of the front to back distance. I don't think there's a right answer, but rather I share this to help people figure out how they may view soundstage to pick the voicing that's best for them based on their perception and preference.
Anyhow, hope this is fun and helpful information for people. I'll repost in the Hel Yeah thread as well since there will be curious minds there too.
This is AEON Flow Closed (Purple) vs AEON Flow RT, Closed (Green)
The obvious major difference between the closed models is the bass boost of 4dB below 150Hz, with the 2dB dip from 150-210Hz. This gives a sizeable increase in bass output, obviously. The original tuning was designed to be very "reference," but since those days we've voiced all our headphones to have more thump to be both more "fun" and to be more perceptually flat, vs measurement flat.
This is AEON Flow Open (Green) vs AEON Flow RT, Open (Red).
There are two difference in AEON Flow RT, Open vs AEON Flow, Open, namely the obvious increase of almost 5dB in sub bass, and the ~4dB output in the upper midrange. The RT tuning is pretty close to the Harmon curve.
Perceptually, the difference between the AFCRTC and the AFCRTO is that the AFCRTO will be a bit more Harmon curve, with a lot more upper bass/lower midrange warmth and more upper midrange energy. Paradoxically, the leaner and more linear delivery in the closed is what often makes people say the Closed sounds more "open" than the Open version. My $0.02 is that is not true, what happens is having more energy in this region makes vocals and instruments sound larger and thus closer, however, if you listen to the depth of field like echos and reverb, the Open headphone reaches deeper into space. After many years, I came to the conclusion based on talking to many people that a lot of people think of soundstage as how far away the closest instrument/voice is, while others think of the front to back distance. I don't think there's a right answer, but rather I share this to help people figure out how they may view soundstage to pick the voicing that's best for them based on their perception and preference.
Anyhow, hope this is fun and helpful information for people. I'll repost in the Hel Yeah thread as well since there will be curious minds there too.
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Hmm vs what you said, I feel like some of the graphs are mislabeled. Like the closed vs closed RT you mention the RT gets the base bump but you are showing it with reduced base if the colors mentioned are correct. The open graph vs closed looks odd as well as the graph for closed is different from the initial graph. Is it both open?
Thanks for this! now I I can play around with Roon parametric EQ to see how this would sound. Out of curiosity, does the the AFC2 also have a similar increase in bass below 100 Hz compared to the original AFC?Per the requests for more info on the original AEON Flow vs the RT editions, here you go. Measured on our GRAS/Audio Precision setup. This is a duplicate post to the one I made in the RT thread here. If you have specific questions on the headphone please use that thread so I don't have to duplicate efforts.
This is AEON Flow Closed (Purple) vs AEON Flow RT, Closed (Green)
The obvious major difference between the closed models is the bass boost of 4dB below 150Hz, with the 2dB dip from 150-210Hz. This gives a sizeable increase in bass output, obviously. The original tuning was designed to be very "reference," but since those days we've voiced all our headphones to have more thump to be both more "fun" and to be more perceptually flat, vs measurement flat.
This is AEON Flow Open (Green) vs AEON Flow RT, Closed (Red).
There are two difference in AEON Flow RT, Open vs AEON Flow, Open, namely the obvious increase of almost 5dB in sub bass, and the ~4dB output in the upper midrange. The RT tuning is pretty close to the Harmon curve.
Perceptually, the difference between the AFCRTC and the AFCRTO is that the AFCRTO will be a bit more Harmon curve, with a lot more upper bass/lower midrange warmth and more upper midrange energy. Paradoxically, the leaner and more linear delivery in the closed is what often makes people say the Closed sounds more "open" than the Open version. My $0.02 is that is not true, what happens is having more energy in this region makes vocals and instruments sound larger and thus closer, however, if you listen to the depth of field like echos and reverb, the Open headphone reaches deeper into space. After many years, I came to the conclusion based on talking to many people that a lot of people think of soundstage as how far away the closest instrument/voice is, while others think of the front to back distance. I don't think there's a right answer, but rather I share this to help people figure out how they may view soundstage to pick the voicing that's best for them based on their perception and preference.
Anyhow, hope this is fun and helpful information for people. I'll repost in the Hel Yeah thread as well since there will be curious minds there too.
Yes, plus AFC2's bass rolls off closer to the midrange at around 180Hz with no dip above it, so bass is sort of between the AFRTC and AFRTO. Sounds fabulous for jazz since it hits the high notes of the bass really cleanly, and very powerful with EDM.
stop tempting me!
Another Hel Yeah! review from AudioHead... Enjoy!
https://audio-head.com/review-hel-yea-gaming-bundle-with-dca-schiit-antlion-audio/
https://audio-head.com/review-hel-yea-gaming-bundle-with-dca-schiit-antlion-audio/
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Hey Dan,
I am having trouble ordering the bundle on your website, do you ship to Canada? I keep getting this error message when I check out:
The shipping information was unable to be saved. Verify the input data and try again
Hopefully we can sort this out!
Yes, we can ship to Canada, not sure what's going on. Contact info@danclarkaudio.com and Sue will help you out...
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Our review of the Hel Yeah! Gaming bundle as reviewed from our hot pocket gaming guru Mike is now published.
https://headfonics.com/dan-clark-audio-hel-yeah-review/
https://headfonics.com/dan-clark-audio-hel-yeah-review/
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