I have AGP...Dont want to upgrade EVERYTHING to PCI-E
Feb 2, 2006 at 10:30 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 34

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You dont have to...If you already have a decent AGP rig that was missing that special magic for gaming and graphics visual quality...this is the thread for you!

I dont know if many of you recall my thread about building a PC from an old laptop that I had?

P4 3.4Ghz Northwood with HT
1 GB Patriot Signature RAM
250GB Maxtor 16MB Cache 7200 rpm HDD
128 MB evga 6600GT
256 MB BFG 7800 GS OC (new)
20.1" Samsung 204T LCD panel
X-Fi Extreme Music in Gaming mode



BFG released the 7800 GS OC this morning and I just *HAD* to try it out to see what the difference would be. The NDA was lifted this morning and Best Buy had 3 of them on the store shelves. I was in at 10:00 and there were 2 left. I picked one up...came back at 10:30 and they were all gone!!

Came home, installed it and the X-Fi, added a 250GB HDD over the 2 x 60GB notebook drives...started playing CS:S, HL2, GTA...

The performance?

In a word - ASTOUNDING!!

If you want to experience modern gaming performance without throwing away your old AGP rig - GET THIS GPU NOW!!

The 7800GS is a LOT bigger than the 6600GT in terms of physical size, cost and performance. I can play HL2 at 1600x1200 with FULL HDR and full detail!! STUNNING!!
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I have a $2000.00 rig being built in California right now...will I really need it?
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If this system can blow me away...imagine what that one will do to my poor senses...

BLISS
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Feb 2, 2006 at 11:32 PM Post #4 of 34
System:
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Abit IS7-E2
Pentium 4 3.4Ghz Northwood HT
2 x 512 MB Patriot Signature RAM
X-Fi Extreme Music in Gaming Mode
BFG 7800 GS OC
Windows Server 2003 running in Workstation Mode
Seasonic S12 PSU
Thermalright XP-90
Nexus 120mm chassis fans and 92mm CPU fan
250GB 16MB Cache 7200rpm Maxtor HDD
LG Super-Multi Drive


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3D Mark 2006 coming up...
 
Feb 3, 2006 at 1:51 AM Post #5 of 34
from all reviews u have seen, that video card is pretty crappy. $200 6800GS when overclocked a little scores higher then that in 3Dmark05
 
Feb 3, 2006 at 2:33 AM Post #7 of 34
Thats right what my stock x800xtpe AGP gets in 05. Of course, we know that 05 is ATI biased, but still. Its nice to know that im still up there in terms of the best AGP card. BTW, heres a link to my record with my x800xt pe (water cooled): http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1639321
Yep, a 7608. If i did a real vmod instead of the pencil one, i could probably break 8k easily. Lets see that 7800 agp vmodded
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Feb 3, 2006 at 3:16 AM Post #8 of 34
I have mixed feelings on this. My box is a couple years old now but still ok for most of what I do. On the one hand, I think the games I play would be greatly improved by a new, quality video card. But then again, it wouldn't cost a LOT more to get a PCI-E system put together and it'd be a little more future proof. I guess it's nice that there are options for AGP, I just hesitate to do it since I couldn't bring the card along with an upgrade - AGP is effectively dead.
 
Feb 3, 2006 at 3:21 AM Post #9 of 34
Honestly, spending less than $200 can get you from a socket 478 or socket A system to a socket 939 system with AGP and PCI-E. Namely an opteron 144 combined with an Asrock 939dual. Probably the only good board to ever come out of asrock, with tons of futureproofing (can you say AGP/PCI-E socket939/m2?). It also overclocks quite well, and the price is right at $68 last i checked. Its sitting in my rig with a dual core opteron and my x800 right now. Yes, i sound like a salesman
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Feb 3, 2006 at 3:52 AM Post #12 of 34
I'm glad you're getting good results on your system, but I generally advise people not to spend big bucks on AGP cards. It only ties you to that platform for longer than necessary, not to mention having to buy *another* AGP motherboard if a replacement is needed.

An alternative would be to buy a less expensive PCI-E video card such as the terrific Nvidia 6800GS, and use the price difference to offset the cost of a new motherboard. That's what I've been recommending to my gamer friends since last month.
 
Feb 3, 2006 at 6:29 AM Post #14 of 34
Still cant touch my 6730 in 05 with 6800GS OCed and 3700 Sandy @ stock
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Wonder if your new beast can beat my beast
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Specs:
AMD 3700 Sandy
Abit AN8-Ultra
eVGA 7800GT
1GB of RAM

My best is 8190 with older drivers and old motherboard, havent gotten a chance to do any serious overclocking and benchmarking with new drivers and new mobo.

Iron_Dreamer what is his rig getting in 3DMark05 so far?
 
Feb 3, 2006 at 7:01 AM Post #15 of 34
I have no intention of beating your beast. I didnt think this would turn into a pissing contest but I guess benchmarks are intended to do just that. Same crap happening at EOCF and NBF. Wankers
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I'm going back to the 6600GT on monday to see if I can stomach the drop in performance...
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