[Strat Rider]

The picture from @Slater just reminded me I forgot to share my non intrusive ZS6 BA plug result.

I used poster putty to block off one BA. I didn't think to ask Slater if the goal was merely to block sound, or freeze the BA.

I am happy to say I like the effect. The treble volume has been tamed but the character of the iem is still unaffected.

It is reversible, but I will leave it blocked off.

So when the new models are released and the prices drop for the ZS6 during the ZS10 land rush, this helps to tame the biggest negatives, and if you don't like the results, putty is easily removed.

I always have room for 1more ZS6.

 

[Strat Rider]

Too much neutral in this discussion group that is not neutral. The EDR2 are not even remotely neutral, they have a highly elevated bass which contributes to a v-shape. The ZS5 are also not neutral. Neutrally tuned earphones below $100 are rare. The textbook example of a cheap, neutral earphone are the Fostex TE-02. Most members here would throw them in the garbage bin claiming they don't have bass - that's neutral...realistic sounding. The classic premium neutral earphones are the Etymotic ER•4S and ER4 SR.

I stand corrected! Let me rephrase, to my ears with smaller tips, EDR2 has pretty even levels of highs, mids, and bass. Definitely not neutral.

 

[ricemanhk]

Are you implying that if you ordered a mic version you won't get a braided copper cable? I was worried about that so I ordered the non-mic

Nothing but praise for the ZS10 so far.... I can't wait until a fellow head-fi member gets theirs so we can confirm the hype.

From the pictures it seemed to imply the mic version is also a braided cable, but nobody has received them yet (my taobao seller says non-mic is available on day 1, mic version need 3 more days to ship out) so we can't confirm yet. Other sites seem to imply the braided copper cable is a special freebie with the first batches of ZS10, though I suspect (and hope) it's going to be the new stock cable for ZS10 and other new launches from now, coz the old sticky rubber stock cable has earned nothing but complaints.

I'll get mine hopefully next week, if not then I'll be traveling for a week so it'll have to be the week after next. Fingers crossed!

Update: my seller confirms the mic version stock cable is also a braided cable!

 

[Qualcheduno]

Too much neutral in this discussion group that is not neutral. The EDR2 are not even remotely neutral, they have a highly elevated bass which contributes to a v-shape. The ZS5 are also not neutral. Neutrally tuned budget earphones are as rare as British dentists. The textbook example of a cheap, neutral earphone are the Fostex TE-02. Most members here would throw them in the garbage bin claiming they don't have bass - that's neutral...realistic sounding.

HifiChris writes on head-fi: "The TE-02 is very neutral sounding and might be too sterile and boring for many – however, if you want to try a fairly neutral IEM for little money, this one could be for you."

The classic premium neutral earphones are the Etymotic ER•4S and ER4 SR.

Audiophiles are looking for frequency response curves close to the Fostex TE-02 one.

Maybe the edr2 are not neutral, but balanced: while their FR is not flat, none of their frequencies is so elevated to overshadow the others (or so recessed to be overshadowed by the others).

 

[TLDRonin]

If anyone finds any Japanese reviews for the ZS10 hit me up. I can translate it into understandable English


I noticed some people posted Japanese reviews for the ZSR a while back from twitter, but I don't use Twitter

 

[smsmasters]

Is this the braided KZ ZS10 cable everyone is referring to?

 

[ricemanhk]

Is this the braided KZ ZS10 cable everyone is referring to?

Yep, that's the one with mic. If they start selling these standalone I'm gonna replace the stock ones on my ZST and ZSR with it...haha

 

[paulindss]

The price of the non Mic version was higher than the Mic. Wich made me think that the non mic was braided and the mic was the usual cable.

 

[smsmasters]

I saw this on the official kz store on AE:

 

[Otto Motor]

Maybe the edr2 are not neutral, but balanced: while their FR is not flat, none of their frequencies is so elevated to overshadow the others (or so recessed to be overshadowed by the others).

Possibly, but apples are apples and oranges are oranges.

 

[rayliam80]

I saw this on the official kz store on AE:

I have no idea if I'll get the cable since I didn't order from the official store. I went ahead and ordered a non-KZ 2 pin upgrade cable to go along with the ZS10. If I get the upgrade cable, great. If not, no worries.

 

[AsheshM]

I saw this on the official kz store on AE:

Could you please share the link for the above?

 

[rayliam80]

Could you please share the link for the above?

KZ ZS10 Listing on AE KZ Official Store.

 

[smsmasters]

Could you please share the link for the above?

Short link http://bit.ly/2GLoScs

 

[toddy0191]

Yep, that's the one with mic. If they start selling these standalone I'm gonna replace the stock ones on my ZST and ZSR with it...haha

Just checked the ED15 and their cable seems to be the same but non removable.