[Nimweth]

Hi, I've been using the KZ ZS7 for 4 years and I'm really happy with them. The build quality with all that metal is amazing and so professional, also I paired them with a custom cable (original looked fantastic the first month, then you realized it was utter cr*p). The one big fail they have is their connection: it's a pin paragraph A and it's just a rare weird non standard connection, so finding quality BT cables and stuff is hard. So much I bought one for paragraph C and modded it to fit my ZS7's. Works but not as good as an originally made for these.




Anyways, the weird A pin connection being my main reason to change for a paragraph B pin IEM, I was wondering if after 4 years KZ made a clear superior IEM. I'm looking at the KZ ZAS:



Now, they look like they are WAY BETTER than the KZ7, so much more advanced and cool, while in reality that might just be false, and it's all marketing. The problem with the ZAS is that now it's the nozzle tips the ones that are not standard, and I use tips like these:



So I am not sure if I will be able to buy that kind for the ZAS.

Anyways, what do you think? Should I go for the ZAS? Does it really uses all the BA drivers? Will the sound be more separated and round?

I think the ZS7 is still the best hybrid KZ have produced. The ZSX and ZAX both come close but do not have the magic the ZS7 possesses. If you can find one, the BA10 is very similar, the mid and treble drivers are the same but it has a 22955 BA bass driver instead of the 10mm DD. You might also consider the CCA CKX which is the best CCA hybrid excellent sound, (very solid build as well) or the CA16 original which has a more mellow presentation.

 

[ddmareo]

I've only tried their single DD lineups and liked it so far, but all of them sound so similar to each other that I don't even think it's worth collecting them. Though I haven't tried their hybrid lineups except the KZ ZSN Pro (already forget the sound lol)

 

[trumpethead]

I think the ZS7 is still the best hybrid KZ have produced. The ZSX and ZAX both come close but do not have the magic the ZS7 possesses. If you can find one, the BA10 is very similar, the mid and treble drivers are the same but it has a 22955 BA bass driver instead of the 10mm DD. You might also consider the CCA CKX which is the best CCA hybrid excellent sound, (very solid build as well) or the CA16 original which has a more mellow presentation.

Sooooooo, Zax on sale for $47 or CKX on sale for $53?

 

[rambomhtri]

But I was not talking about the ZAX, but about the ZAS

 

[G777]

Hi, I've been using the KZ ZS7 for 4 years and I'm really happy with them. The build quality with all that metal is amazing and so professional, also I paired them with a custom cable (original looked fantastic the first month, then you realized it was utter cr*p). The one big fail they have is their connection: it's a pin paragraph A and it's just a rare weird non standard connection, so finding quality BT cables and stuff is hard. So much I bought one for paragraph C and modded it to fit my ZS7's. Works but not as good as an originally made for these.




Anyways, the weird A pin connection being my main reason to change for a paragraph B pin IEM, I was wondering if after 4 years KZ made a clear superior IEM. I'm looking at the KZ ZAS:



Now, they look like they are WAY BETTER than the KZ7, so much more advanced and cool, while in reality that might just be false, and it's all marketing. The problem with the ZAS is that now it's the nozzle tips the ones that are not standard, and I use tips like these:



So I am not sure if I will be able to buy that kind for the ZAS.

Anyways, what do you think? Should I go for the ZAS? Does it really uses all the BA drivers? Will the sound be more separated and round?

Those BAs probably aren't doing much at all. They are positioned quite far from the nozzle and sound ducts that lead to them don't even reach the entirety of the BAs' output ports (see pic below).

There are many better options at the price point anyways, such as the Dunu Titan S.

 

[Mr.HiAudio]

do you have a 1th gen or 2th gen of EDX Pro ? 1th gen more warm, 2th get like a EDS - more bright.
they are different.
1th gen - stock box, 2th gen - small box

 

[lushmelody]

But I was not talking about the ZAX, but about the ZAS

Its better to avoid any recent KZ/CCA hybrid (or tribrid). Single DD is fine. Full BA presents some degree of driver dampening and dark stock tuning (that will require EQ).

 

[lushmelody]

Graphs of iems KZ has been testing recently have been teased on the KZ discord server. They are supposedly all going to be released at some point.

In my opinion they mostly look great, especially E (wow!), D and C. Seems like Crin influenced their mind about tuning a lot. I arranged the graphs from most to least appealing to me.

Maybe they will release all this for 30 bucks to make us forget about DriverGate, and I would not be mad at all!KZ entering Harman flooding.

V is truly gone. Now they'll flood harman... Which is kinda great, tbh? They are tackling "premium", "reference" tuning AND the drivers for reasonable price markets.

 

[saldsald]

Those BAs probably aren't doing much at all. They are positioned quite far from the nozzle and sound ducts that lead to them don't even reach the entirety of the BAs' output ports (see pic below).


There are many better options at the price point anyways, such as the Dunu Titan S.

Thou I haven't played with the drivers inside, I think the BAs there are quite loud - louder than the DD so you see the elevated bass on graph.
The ZAS is not bad, huge stage, just not enough balance between the Bass/mid and treble and the treble resolution is kind of lacking in comparison to the bass/mid.

 

[Nimweth]

But I was not talking about the ZAX, but about the ZAS

I realise that, but I have not heard the ZAS, sorry. I was just mentioning some possible alternatives.

 

[Nimweth]

Sooooooo, Zax on sale for $47 or CKX on sale for $53?

I personally prefer the CKX. In my experience, the ZAX is more V shaped and a more "fun" tuning and the CKX is smoother and more balanced in character.

 

[Shooting Star]

KZ ZS10 Pro
Do you also have this glue/resin problem?
It seems only 2BAs are opened in to the main chamber while other 2BAs are covered by resin.
Can you guys take some close-up pictures of your zs10 pro & reply down here. So we can see, if it's QC issue or the Norm of it. ‍♂

 

[countryboyhk]

So I am not sure if I will be able to buy that kind for the ZAS.

Anyways, what do you think? Should I go for the ZAS? Does it really uses all the BA drivers? Will the sound be more separated and round?

ZAS is a bass cannon. It seems the DD always dominant than the BA drivers, not really separated sounds. It's not as airy liked ZAX. No matter how I change the cables and the tips, it's still not really enjoyable to me, and I do not recommend to anyone. BTW, I also own a ZEX, it's tuning is rather similar to the ZAS, with more controlled bass. Eventhough the soundstage is wider and highs is brighter for ZAS, but I prefer the ZEX more with its organic sounds.

 

[RikudouGoku]

do you have a 1th gen or 2th gen of EDX Pro ? 1th gen more warm, 2th get like a EDS - more bright.
they are different.
1th gen - stock box, 2th gen - small box

 

[courierdriver]

We don't know that they did that. We just have speculation and a frenzied mob.

Not sure how you can say that it's speculation, when 2 individuals actually tore these iems apart and showed how the drivers were either disconnected or covered with glue. That's not speculation, my friend. That's proof that they DID actually do that.