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Dec 9, 2022 at 6:25 AM Post #68,596 of 103,275
Truthear HEXA. Neutral with sub-bass boost.

It has quite decent technicalities, good isolation and fit. Timbre is pretty natural considering it has BAs inside. And the coherency is quite good IMHO, DD bass can keep up with BAs handling the higher frequencies. It sounds like a single DD in terms of coherency actually. Soundstage is small though.



The TRI I3 has one of the largest and heaviest shells I've encountered. But therein is their secret sauce - the huge shells contribute to a massive soundstage. The TRI I3's soundstage depth and height can rival some earbuds even!
Hexa is not up to speed for me personally, 8k peak and rising sub with no roll off.
 
Dec 9, 2022 at 7:06 AM Post #68,598 of 103,275
Have you tried the NF audio tips included in the box? The first thing I did was throwing the tips on the IEMs in the trash and put the NF Audio tips on. When the seal is good, I hear a sub-bass focused tuning with a decent amount of mid-bass, but not too much.

Yes, the NF tips are somewhat better, but I still miss complete sections/registers in songs I have played for years. I know I can't expect the same amount of bass as a big TRI I3 gives, but it felt like there was none at all, which I found surprising.

I will try other tips including clarion, spinfit and dunu S&S. Fiio HS18 didn't do the trick.
 
Dec 9, 2022 at 7:13 AM Post #68,599 of 103,275
Yes, the NF tips are somewhat better, but I still miss complete sections/registers in songs I have played for years. I know I can't expect the same amount of bass as a big TRI I3 gives, but it felt like there was none at all, which I found surprising.

I will try other tips including clarion, spinfit and dunu S&S. Fiio HS18 didn't do the trick.
I guess it is what it is, mate. Can't rule out the possibility that your unit is defective.

Btw, Fiio HS18 tips actually roll off the bass. Spin-fit is iffy, they can add or remove bass depending on the nozzle. Of course, tips are super subjective.
 
Dec 9, 2022 at 8:56 AM Post #68,600 of 103,275
Truthear HEXA. Neutral with sub-bass boost.

It has quite decent technicalities, good isolation and fit. Timbre is pretty natural considering it has BAs inside. And the coherency is quite good IMHO, DD bass can keep up with BAs handling the higher frequencies. It sounds like a single DD in terms of coherency actually. Soundstage is small though.



The TRI I3 has one of the largest and heaviest shells I've encountered. But therein is their secret sauce - the huge shells contribute to a massive soundstage. The TRI I3's soundstage depth and height can rival some earbuds even!
Second to HEXA. The one paragraph summary it almost identical of what I have to say.

One thing I could add about small sound stage is that it has small artificial head room, which does mean that it will be track-mix dependent. If track is recorded and mixed with no diffusions or surround effects, the track will be rendered accordingly. Vice versa, if a track was recorded using say Sennheiser(Neumann)’s binaural dummy head KU100, with a proper mastering in wide open space —e.g. live stage — HEXA will render exact same wide staging.

Those are accurate. And Highly recommend for sound engineers, and professionals. And for that small staging alone, is exactly same reason why studio monitors are designed to have accurate presentation of original mix, so they know where to start. HD25, DT770, CD900ST, etc etc.

There is one pre-requisite for that pseudo-VR holo-phonic presentation with HEXA& Softears RSV(they have same tuning for mid-upper mid).

▶︎Listners may need to have their pinna gain peak spot situated near 3kHz+/- 0.1kHz(2.9kh-3.1khz) if not, it won’t “click” anything.

I can see Crin has 2.9kHz-3kHz gain spot, and yes it did click his HRTF with RSV it seems, He rarely shave out S on tonality and RSV scored his “supreme” grade, I believe his HRTF coincided with what RSV was designed for.

The artificial head room, diffusion field, is like “surround” EQ effect if I try to roughly put it knowing it’s a different thing. Just to make an easy metaphorical approximation.

The IEMs with wide preset surroundings effects, as you can imagine, will add extra room to narrow stage-tracks, make badly recorded tracks to sound more out of head. Those headroom generation is a skill of coloration as well, because narrow staging ones are more of HRTF simulator, for those with close ear acoustic anatomy. However if the coloration of head room generation is bad, it will make track to sound unnatural, being unnatural could add some additional taste, wether like or not is purely a perceived as entertainment of listeners.
 
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Dec 9, 2022 at 9:20 AM Post #68,602 of 103,275
How many KZ IEMs are we releasing this week?
KZ: YES. We will release KZ pokemon into the wild until we run out of alphabets!

KZ ZNA. 1DD + 1BA

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/2386473901653225/posts/3034725680161374/
 
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Dec 9, 2022 at 9:43 AM Post #68,603 of 103,275
Dec 9, 2022 at 10:29 AM Post #68,604 of 103,275
*Paging @o0genesis0o ! Paging o0genesis0o!*

So it looks like on Sunday afternoon/evening I'm gonna have a couple friends over for a BBQ and gear swapping sesh and I'll have a few hours of comparison time with the Andros, A12t, Monarch Mk2, and Mest Mk2. I'll keep you posted on how it goes.

And ofc, you're more than welcome to attend if you can fly from Down Under to SoCal in time. I'll even pick you up at the airport of your choice and you can stay in my guest room. If not, posts and PMs will have to do...
Oh man, I am definitely looking forward to this. I assume the Monarch won't rank highly on your comparison list considering the lack of mid bass, but I'd love to hear a drummers input on these 4 sets ... it may even influence a purchase/trade in the future...
 
Dec 9, 2022 at 11:42 AM Post #68,605 of 103,275
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So I am testing these out. I know we dont mention TWS IEMs much on this thread as there is a dedicated thread for TWS stuff. But I figure I would give a heads up on these.

So these are basshead TWS buds. Just so you know. Bonified basshead. 10dbs for mid to sub bass amplified too. If you guys are wanting something a bit different in your collection and you want something with a whole lot of rumbly bass amplified. These are the ticket and its has great stage to boot. Mids are not as forward as I would have liked but you have to sacrifice one aspect of the tuning to get that bass with stage going on. But again the main focus on these are a warm ear bass massage when out and about. Which is actually my preferred signature for outdoor use anyhow.
 
Dec 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM Post #68,606 of 103,275
Oh man, I am definitely looking forward to this. I assume the Monarch won't rank highly on your comparison list considering the lack of mid bass, but I'd love to hear a drummers input on these 4 sets ... it may even influence a purchase/trade in the future...
If you need a cross chart for Monarch / MEST MKII / Anole VX (neutral with bass boost, close to 12t). I'm a drummer as well, 60(macro-dynamism) : 40 (detail-analytical) oriented in all-rounder listening, with 3076Hz of pinna gain peak spot.
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Dec 9, 2022 at 1:05 PM Post #68,607 of 103,275
@o0genesis0o @MVVp I'm having a wild thought. I believe you also got the spare nozzle filters with the RA10? What if we stack those filters, one each over the already existing one? Will that increase the bass?

Sadly I'm off to site for 2 weeks so won't have access to the RA10 for a while...can any of you try it and let us know the result?

I also have a different kind of filter from Japan. I might try that as well...can be interesting...will try.
 
Dec 9, 2022 at 1:13 PM Post #68,608 of 103,275
How many KZ IEMs are we releasing this week?
KZ: YES. We will release KZ pokemon into the wild until we run out of alphabets!

KZ ZNA. 1DD + 1BA

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319070260_483244517227263_1437240658593648201_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2386473901653225/posts/3034725680161374/
Kinda looks a bit like a new iteration on the ZES design, except with a BA instead of the EST, and I guess it's using a newer DD.
I kinda like the faceplate, but I'm mostly wondering about the tips, that certainly don't look at all like their usual.
 
Dec 9, 2022 at 2:35 PM Post #68,609 of 103,275
Tinhifi C2, entry level LCP single DD’s video review, it has English subtitles if you click on “CC” then select from options to Change it to Eng. The CC overlaps with original Japanese Sub, so it’s a bit hard to see though. At least basic info you may got.

Surprisingly the shell is made of aluminum, nice.

Another review with measurements of C2 and C3.
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Dec 9, 2022 at 2:53 PM Post #68,610 of 103,275
Tinhifi C2, entry level LCP single DD’s video review, it has English subtitles if you click on “CC” then select from options to Change it to Eng. The CC overlaps with original Japanese Sub, so it’s a bit hard to see though. At least basic info you may got.

Surprisingly the shell is made of aluminum, nice.

Another review with measurements of C2 and C3.
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I really like my T3+ so these look like they have a shot at being pretty good. Graphs don't tell the whole story, but this certainly gives a positive indication.
 

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