[Automata]

465 is overkill for Utopia and other easy to drive headphones like the D8000 Pro LE. For Susvara for example, it sounds its absolute best on the 465

The 465 were technically too detailed, too digital thus lacks the warmth and emotion that WA23 brought me. That’s why I dislike the Utopia 465 combo from what I heard last time. The WA23 and Utopia combo sounds better to me. Haven’t tried other headphones with the 465 tho. Especially my favourite D8000Pro.

 

[normie610]

The 465 were technically too detailed, too digital thus lacks the warmth and emotion that WA23 brought me. That’s why I dislike the Utopia 465 combo from what I heard last time. The WA23 and Utopia combo sounds better to me. Haven’t tried other headphones with the 465 tho. Especially my favourite D8000Pro.

It could be that 465 somehow doesn’t have good synergy with dynamic drivers but works very well with planars. A couple of headfiers reported that 465 doesn’t go well with Valkyria, which is not a planar headphone. WA23 makes more sense in this case.