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Mar 13, 2024 at 6:11 PM Post #83,686 of 90,523
Which IEM would we send into space as a community? It's not my favourite, but I would 100% support a vote for Traillii. Or?

drftr
i love that this can be taken either way lol... i have heard plenty of sets i would love to launch into space
 
Mar 13, 2024 at 6:24 PM Post #83,687 of 90,523
Got this compact rig yesterday... Dunu Glacier, and iBasso DC Elite. Sound is anything but 'compact'. Very impressive dynamics, and resolution. Dunu hit it out of the park with the Glacier.




MusickTeck's post CanJam thread led me to forum search and then your post

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/stars-of-canjam-are-now-in-stock.972053/

How is the scratch resistance please or is that TBC with longer ownership/use. Yes this is a superficial question. But just look at the Dunu press photos. So shiny...
 
Mar 13, 2024 at 6:50 PM Post #83,688 of 90,523
Which IEM would we send into space as a community? It's not my favourite, but I would 100% support a vote for Traillii. Or?

drftr

Definitely Traillii…or maybe IER Z1R
 
Mar 13, 2024 at 6:57 PM Post #83,689 of 90,523
MusickTeck's post CanJam thread led me to forum search and then your post

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/stars-of-canjam-are-now-in-stock.972053/

How is the scratch resistance please or is that TBC with longer ownership/use. Yes this is a superficial question. But just look at the Dunu press photos. So shiny...

I used them for several weeks, and I didn't see one scratch at all. It's some super hard grade of stainless steel, so I think it's about as resistant to micro scratches as any metal bodied IEM can be.
 
Mar 13, 2024 at 7:02 PM Post #83,690 of 90,523
Which IEM would we send into space as a community? It's not my favourite, but I would 100% support a vote for Traillii. Or?

drftr
Which IEM would we send into space as a community? It's not my favourite, but I would 100% support a vote for Traillii. Or?

drftr
Fly free bird 🪐🛸🚀
 
Mar 13, 2024 at 7:22 PM Post #83,692 of 90,523
Dunno man... I would want to have to look into earhole real estate for the average martian first :)

PS: I tried to contact them but they insist on communicating through BCD only. Go figure...

drftr

lol yeah I was just going by the IEMs that seem to persist most through time.

If the aliens are robots we could send them the u12t.
 
Mar 13, 2024 at 7:29 PM Post #83,693 of 90,523
If the aliens are robots we could send them the u12t.
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Mar 13, 2024 at 7:36 PM Post #83,694 of 90,523
I'd vote for the Traillii too, it was ridiculous how fast I fell back in love with that sound even though the Ti and OG are different flavors, I wish the price difference between a used OG and a Ti wasn't so drastic.

Pretty birdies.

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Finally got my Mjolnir up and running, definitely a few hiccups in the setup process but we are smooth sailing now. I'm really enjoying this device and having an.. erm.... "desktop" setup 😅🫣 That Traillii Ti would look damn pretty next to it...

The area is a work in progress but I'm content with it for the time being.

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Mar 13, 2024 at 7:39 PM Post #83,695 of 90,523
So, I slipped and fall flat on my butt today, and my first concern was “is my IEM alright”

Priority, people

Nothing broke, btw, except a few bruises on my body and my ego
 
Mar 13, 2024 at 7:40 PM Post #83,696 of 90,523
Dunno man... I would want to have to look into earhole real estate for the average martian first :)

PS: I tried to contact them but they insist on communicating through BCD only. Go figure...

drftr
You mean Elon Mask? He definitely has large earholes.
 
Mar 13, 2024 at 7:47 PM Post #83,697 of 90,523
You mean Elon Mask? He definitely has large earholes.
I just keep thinking why do we think aliens would have ears or sense sound? It is like sending them cardamom pods and pepper corns assuming they cook. Taking a chance that they do hear 20Hz - 18KHz sound waves, we would also need to send a DAP that charges on electromagnetic energy gathered up in space.
 
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Mar 13, 2024 at 8:09 PM Post #83,698 of 90,523
I just keep thinking why do we think aliens would have ears or sense sound? It is like sending them cardamom pods and pepper corns assuming they cook. Taking a chance that they do hear 20Hz - 18KHz sound waves, we would also need to send a DAP that charges on electromagnetic energy gathered up in space.
The genes in our earth are very likely come from outer space themselves, and therefore, very likely most of the species in this universe shared the same genome pool, they just evolved differently in different planets.

However, regarding audiophiles in the space, there could be some species that more like bats, their sensors will take the frequency that our human won't able to hear, or at least too shouty? Solute to the treble-head in the universe.
 
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Mar 13, 2024 at 8:26 PM Post #83,699 of 90,523
Cross-posting from the CanJam thread...so awesome to see so many Watercoolers in one place!!!

Sorry for the length of this post, and for the amount of pics, but having just arrived home from CanJam NYC, and having spent zero time on my computer or the forum during the event, just plowing from experience to experience, both in the showroom and around it, am just now getting to write this out. Feel free to skip, this will be some incoherent mumbling I'm sure.

This was a truly epic CanJam for me - okay only my second, but I feel confident my senior fellows would agree that a lot, maybe most, of that epicness comes from events that are not in the showroom of CanJam, but would otherwise never occur but for CanJam! So thanks to all of the amazing people who put this thing together (far too many to name!), this was a CanJam for the ages and I feel very excited to return to NYC next year for more fun:)

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First, it was great to see the Big Apple again as it always is! Despite its craziness, this city is alive, even during massive rain downpours, the streets are still packed, especially in Times Square, the scene of the crime!

I arrived too late to join in on the early Watercooler Friday festivities, which are now affectionately known as EyalJams, but I will be sure to change that up next year.

Arrived on Friday afternoon to the Marriott Marquis ready to meet up with some Watercoolers for dinner, and having eaten nothing all day flying across the country, some of us were very ready for a gorge fest!
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As I checked in and started getting settled, I saw that the crunch time had arrived for show setup, everyone working far harder than me!
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So, on to a dinner to remember! A group of us walked three blocks down 46th to Becco, a Bastianich restaurant, part of their empire! And their Italian did not disappoint... But better than the food was finally, after so much waiting, coming together with this group of friends who really enjoy the company of serious audiophiles. It was a gorge fest, with plenty of lively conversation, laughing, and huge portions of delicious Italian food!
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After an amazing dinner, we said goodnight, time to crash and then get up for the show!

Saturday, Day 1- Today, I tried more iems than any other day of my life! At the outset, I will say that the floor was noisy, I didn't try to do any critical listening, just looking for big or little problems. Most here were tested using my L&P P6Pro and Shanling M9 plus, except for the Novus which I tested on AK's new SP3000T and the UM Mason ST which I tried on the new L&P E7. Here were my highlights with initial impressions which are admittedly of little help, but it'll be good for my note history:

1. Oriolus Trailli Ti: Trailli doesn't have a DD does it? Beautiful timbre, bass hits are surgical and have beautiful texture, with light sub bass elevation. Note weight is excellent, mids are a bit forward creating perfect vocals. Among the best things I've ever had in my ears, though my credit card would give a polite "no". Wish I would have taken a pic of it, but it was very popular.

2. Noble Onyx: preorder, BCD set, great execution of the BCD. Good deep bass, wide staging, holographic sound, a great release, would love to demo. Good price for a very TOTL sound.

3. EE/AK Novus: Must try to demo this longer, staging seems as impossibly huge as the price, vocals are beautifully isolated, this is an awesome tuning, great on new SP3000T. It's beautiful with an Audemars Piguet like bezel and crystal!
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4. Eletech Romeo and Juliet: Romeo the clear winner, Juliet feels unfinished. Romeo is awesome, with deep and impactful bass, with clear mids and sparkling treble. Very fast, sounds like DDs with BAs. One of the best bass qualities and quantities I've heard accompanied by the top down tuning. Some songs can sound like a big 2 way system with fat woofers, then all of a sudden you get a song that surrounds you holographically. Great, engaging stage, great low rumble.
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5. CFA Trifecta: As good as I recall, likely CFA's greatest creation, the deepest pounding DD bass ever, but excellent detail and resolution across FR. I know lots say it's a specialist, but I could easily see it as the primary iem for my library which seems to love it. I must get this 😭 (my wallet cries)!

6. NG Erebus: Awesome deep bass with thick note weight but great treble, staging is holographic, this is great.

7. Noble Onyx: New BCD set, great execution of the BCD. Good deep bass, wide staging, holographic sound, a great release, would love to demo. Very TOTL sound.

8. UM Mason ST: Just wow, beautiful, this is amazing, still the bass disappoints, but just barely, as it's over done by everything else going on here. I prefer AP definitely listening to them back-to-back; AP has wonderful bass and Mason does not. Both sounded lovely on the new L&P E7.

9. PMG Apx: Not as bright as I thought it would be. Still, a lot of energy up there. Beautiful detail, good low thump, but lacks midbass a bit, though very airy with great separation, an exciting tuning. But yes, too bright for me, but just barely. On 2nd listen, using Baroque tips, great all arounder for a treble head, incredible detail, layers on layers, you're sure to hear some new things in your music. Beautiful soundstage and incredible tuning, wide and tall, too light in sub bass.

10. Dita Project M: Much better than I expected. More balanced with great deep bass, but yes, energy up top may be pushing it. Treble focused songs sound a little thin, but not bad. This is a super deal with a fun tuning.

11. Canpur 622B: lush, thick mid, and still plenty of air. Detail retrieval and resolution are great, holographic stage, does it sound like MM? With better bass, I think. Pretty great, would like longer demo.

12. Canpur 54E: really nice, powerful bass, thick mids, sparkling treble, maybe too sparkling. Sub bass a little boomy, but that could be the point, it does sound good.

Phew...my ears were tired, but I was getting very hungry! We stopped for a big group picture after the showroom doors were closed. Congrats to @Chang and @bogdan belonozhko for winning the year's Watercooler awards!!!
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Saturday Dinner was a big one, long in the planning with such a big crew! At one of NYC's oldest steakhouses. What we didn't plan for was 1"/hour rain during the 12 block walk! Some were truly soaked by this storm that decided to hit Manhattan just in time for dinner (flood warnings for Manhattan)! Anyway, we finally made it to Keen's, famous for the mutton chop and prime rib, which the well-soaked @Zachik and I happily shared, while @Rockwell75 nabbed a bit of lump crab cocktail. Those who attended ate and laughed heartily throughout the fun night - highly recommend if you've never been, a real slice of old New York! Also, I must say that, after meeting @Frankie D, I'm thinking he and I have a future career in vaudeville or something!
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Day 2: Usually, Day 2 gives you a little respite from the crowds of Saturday, but not so much on this Sunday. The hall was crowded, busy and lively with iem, headphone and luminaries everywhere! Truly an audiophiles dream meet up, but as others have said, the loud floor could sometimes interfere with testing. The Bloom room is always the best place for a quieter session and it is a respite from the mania of the floor which I greatly appreciate.

My first real listening experience of the day was a headphone, not an iem, but it was THE headphone: the Sennheiser HE1 (thanks to gentleman and scholar @goldwerger who gave me his time slot!)! This was the most emotional listening experience I've had in recent memory. Blown away with consistent goosebumps and eyes-welling, this all-in-one elegance is otherworldly. All I can really say is that every headphone/iem audiophile should really try to have this experience at least once, though after you do, you'll want it again as I already do (tip for 2d time: have your playlist very set for a 15 minute period and have a couple extra tracks in case you get more time). Thanks @ericpalonen for the awesome pics of the ever aging me having that Audio Gods moment!!!
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Now it was back to the tables!!! Not craps tables, no they are much cheaper than these tables!!! Of course, MusicTeck is my favorite one-stop because of the shear magnitude of their offerings. But I also was today able to get finally to FatFreq, NightJar, CFA, and of course, Bloom. Again all useless impressions primarily from my P6Pro and M9+:

1. FF Grand Maestro: Wonderful TOTL sound with meaty, thick notes, and I want one.

2. Noble Ragnar: Male vocals are insane, beautiful and clear with excellent timbre, top end energy is too much for me, strange.

3. Noble Spartacus: This one seems to have even more treble energy. Noble must be great for treble and details. Detail retrieval and treble is powerful, good deep rumble, great BCD, reminds of Annihilator with better bass. Aspiring to Fei Wan but not that, still, I like this one most so far, stage is pretty tall and holographic, still it's hot at the top.

4. Nightjar Duality: I heard this at CanJam Socal and was apprehensive on the sheer quantity of bass. But, after a solid second listen today, I believe they have refined it further from that time, and I was absolutely blown away by a completely different sounding iem from anything else on the market. Thick and heavy but with screaming highs, this is going on the 2024 list for sure. Remember, @Chang, I want one!
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5. CFA Supermoon: Planar magnetic iem, super-detailed, too light in sub bass for me, high energy at top, but I'm wondering if this is the timestream cable which never seems perfect.

6. CFA Fathom: New all BA sounds great, good BA bass, nicely detailed, speedy transients, beautiful timbre, great BA set.

7. Elysian Pilgrim: The new inexpensive Elysian Pilgrim here! Wow, straight Elysian sound and tuning with a nice bass, treble that stays in check, this is great, sounds certainly better than Diva and Gaea to me. It's not Anni, but it reminds you of it. Why does it need so much power, even more than Anni?, thinness/shallow note weight in mids and a little shouty. Anni got this right and I hope they fix before release. In any event, this would be a great buy as-is.
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As this CanJam came to an end, I went to the Bloom Audio room for their raffle, and lo-and-behold, I lucked out and won an ET Raphael!! Thanks, guys!!!!! What an awesome way to end an otherwise awesome show!

At the end of the day, a lot of sad adieus until the next show!!! Thanks again to everyone, this was a terrific show!! And nothing ends a time in NYC like a coal-fired pizza, so grabbed that and made my way back to LA! Until next time!
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Mar 13, 2024 at 8:28 PM Post #83,700 of 90,523
The genes in our earth are very likely come from outer space themselves, and therefore, very likely most of the species in this universe shared the same genome pool, they just evolved differently in different planets.

However, regarding audiophiles in the space, there could be some species that more like bats, their sensors will take the frequency that our human won't able to hear, or at least too shouty? Solute to the treble-head in the universe.
Agreed...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murchison_meteorite#Classification_and_composition
 

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