That is a wonderful analogy to explain the differences between the two. 🤣

Out of those selections I would suggest the Moondrop. I feel it has better specs and received better reviews. I have gone through 2 KA11 units. They over heat and will begin to fail and shut down, avoid that one.

LMAO.... That is a lot of words to basically say "Go Scratch". 👍

Brave Soul..... 👍

Please pass along link to download. Thanks.

I think if possible is to add an option to have it On or Off in the settings. So each person can choose for themselves.

Mid gain and running easy to drive IEM and Headphones.

Mine is already dropped and the post office, wonder how long before I see a replacement.

Thank you for the confirmation, unit is packed up and ready to be sent back.

Yeah, I found using the Plugins does greatly increase the heat. I noticed when I disable them it does run a little cooler, still warm but not as hot as I was feeling earlier.

No, After it got hot the first time, I shut it down and let it cool than about 30 minutes later tried again and after 15 minutes, again too hot to handle.

No so far I just downloaded directly from Tidal for offline listening, have not moved over any of my own as of yet.

I just received my R4 DAP unit today and I am having an issue with it. The short time I have been using it, it is getting VERY hot. To the point that I have to shut it down as it is burning my hand. The unit is only playing files I had downloaded already to the SD card from Tidal. Playing for no...

Just received my shipment notice as well. I paid for the expedited shipping so hopefully soon...

Your "Cream Cheese" comment confused me.... till I watched. :-)

Just curious for those who can not connect to LDAC did you try activating Developer Options and see if it is available there....

Yeah, that is compact.... for me it was a little too small.

Never tried Max, I am set at CD quality. But I will verify when I get home later.

presently on 2.110.0.1180.15

No issue, though I can only download playlists in no more than 4 or 5 at a time. More than that and it jams up.

Really what type of an improvement would someone expect from using 13 over 12. I still use 8.1 on my R5 Gen 1 with Tidal and no issues. At $249. I will be impressed if I keep this unit for two years.

Just wait till after the Preorder period and you do not have to worry about an included strap and you would have no reason to return it.... simple problem, simple answer. Or just don't buy it because you do not agree with them offering something free.... which ever works for you. I do not give...

Thank you as I thought I read a mid April release.

it has been sold out on Hiby the last few days. Any idea when it will be back in or available from other retailers for US delivery?

Does the R4 also include the Hiby MSEB?