No, I truly enjoy the duality!
Like Yin and Yang - two sides of the Whole.
I am aware of the science (that also helps me to guide my cable quest), but then I really cherish my imagination, and it works beautifully with psychoacoustics (the sense of sound seems to be the least controlled by the mind), few little things to enjoy in this world.
We can stop confronting each other. You are too defensive for a debate in which I agree with you over resistance, but your silly remarks about colour are too condescending for me. You are welcome now to the last word as I leave the thread. Respect was there a few minutes ago, now it's totally gone. Enjoy.
We can stop confronting each other. You are too defensive for a debate in which I agree with you over resistance, but your silly remarks about colour are too condescending for me. You are welcome now to the last word as I leave the thread. Respect was there a few minutes ago, now it's totally gone. Enjoy.
Crossmodal association is well established at this point, and affects most people to some degree. In extreme cases it manifests as synesthesia, where experiences with one sense directly create experiences in another sense (sound creating colors or shapes or both, or vice versa). Synesthesia is more common in artists, where it is often an asset (or even the main driver for) their creative process. Typically synesthesia has a genetic basis, but in some cases it is learned and in rare cases brain injuries can cause sysesthesia and there have been some cases of people becoming musical savants with synesthesia after a brain injury. In everyday people, crossmodal associations typically have more subtle effects where most everyone experiences them to some degree. It's been well established that color affects taste (one of the reasons there is such a focus on the appearance of mass-produced foods and the success and heavy use of artificial coloring and color appearance preservatives), and color also affects the perception of sound (and other senses, and can impact mood). It's not surprising at all that a cable color can impact how music sounds (and that this effect could vary from person to person). A few articles for further reading for those interested:
Regarding the electrical aspects of cables, let me provide you with two extreme scenarios, one where cables could make no electrical difference to someone, and one where they would.
Person A has all single driver headphones and headphone amplifier(s) with low output impedance and plenty of power to drive the headphones with standard single ended cables. Person B has a mix of headphones that includes multi-driver headphones with crossovers and very low impedances, single driver headphones that require a lot of power, and their headphone amplifier(s) have high output impedances and/or variable performance on different outputs (i.e. a balanced output that is wired to a separate balanced amplifier that has both more power and is higher quality than the single-ended amplifier inside the same box). Person A will not experience any significant electrical differences in cables unless they use a bad cable (either manufacturing error or designed horribly wrong) while Person B could experience a range of differences depending on the cable and earphone/headphone combination they are using with certain outputs and amplifiers. If neither person experiences a high degree of crossmodal association (i.e. isn't very affected by the color of the cable) Person A could reasonably conclude that cables make no difference, while Person B would rightfully say they make a lot of difference. (Add in variable amounts of crossmodal associations in each person for a wider range of experiences/opinions on the matter).
The good ol' cable debate always brings in some new perspectives for everyone. Once in a while, they're refreshing and informative as well. It is also somewhat a variant of the science vs faith debate. I won't delve much as it is definitely out of the scope of this website let alone the thread. Nonetheless, it is very fascinating.
Well, to be honest it has QC issues and not all get what is hyped. I also got one that had venting issues (driver flex) and sounded muddy mess.
But... I get what BGGAR hyped about them - IF You get unit with no driver flex and actual driver back venting QC OK.
I re-shelled them after fixing driver back venting done badly. They sounded great after fix in original shells also.
They sound similar in tuning as modded KPE... maybe even overall coherency is tad better than KPE but can`t beat KPE micro-details.
Well, to be honest it has QC issues and not all get what is hyped. I also got one that had venting issues (driver flex) and sounded muddy mess.
But... I get what BGGAR hyped about them - IF You get unit with no driver flex and actual driver back venting QC OK.
I re-shelled them after fixing driver back venting done badly. They sounded great after fix in original shells also.
They sound similar in tuning as modded KPE... maybe even overall coherency is tad better than KPE but can`t beat KPE micro-details.
I have Blon bl-03 and like fixed BIE tad more. Fixed BIE has actually more details and transparency/layering.
But I have no interest in arguing... just recommended something with amazing value IF You get good version of it.
To prove my point it has issues, compare my original unit(green line) graph to others out there - that BIG mid-bass down to sub-bass "ARC-hill" was AWFUL sounding and I really thought same as You said - muddy mess with treble spike!
I have Blon bl-03 and like fixed BIE tad more. Fixed BIE has actually more details and transparency/layering.
But I have no interest in arguing... just recommended something with amazing value IF You get good version of it.
To prove my point it has issues, compare my original unit(green line) graph to others out there - that BIG mid-bass down to sub-bass "ARC-hill" was AWFUL sounding and I really thought same as You said - muddy mess with treble spike!
I have Blon bl-03 and like fixed BIE tad more. Fixed BIE has actually more details and transparency/layering.
But I have no interest in arguing... just recommended something with amazing value IF You get good version of it.
To prove my point it has issues, compare my original unit(green line) graph to others out there - that BIG mid-bass down to sub-bass "ARC-hill" was AWFUL sounding and I really thought same as You said - muddy mess with treble spike!
The good ol' cable debate always brings in some new perspectives for everyone. Once in a while, they're refreshing and informative as well. It is also somewhat a variant of the science vs faith debate. I won't delve much as it is definitely out of the scope of this website let alone the thread. Nonetheless, it is very fascinating.
As a member of the scientific community I encourage you to reference/cite your findings with links/publications to the direct claim that you make saying: "expensive cables are a placebo effect". Thank you
In all seriousness, i'm genuinely curious as to what these studies are.
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.