Jan 30, 2017 at 6:14 PM Post #17,086 of 80,435
Okay thanks @Danneq


Yeah I guess the same thing, the more time you give them, the more you absorb their sound.

Btw, after having had the chance to try Stardust, the pair I have ordered is coming hopefully this week.
After reading your Campfred's review for the half-dozen time :D , I found this characteristic below, quite the same as on Stardust and also that they have to be heard on low or medium volume at max. On (very) high volume, it was not good.


This is the kind of sound I've never heard in a pair of earbuds before, I loved this coherence and resolution, that's why I pulled the trigger on Stardust.


Then, we'll see. If the wallet allows it, Campfred may be my new friend as well.


And Stardust will probably be my new friend later in the spring.

But you really should give Diomnes a try also if you have the chance!
 
Jan 30, 2017 at 9:32 PM Post #17,088 of 80,435
Which of the above manufacture their own voice coils/drivers (as opposed to re-tuning off the shelf earbud drivers)? My guess:

  • Cypherus
  • Crow
  • Heavenly Sound



This is interesting if its all true... hmmmm

There are 2 brands that i'm very sure build their own driver. Elibuds and the Raid by Laki Audio. All of its line up using hand-made driver, not modded/re-tuned.

Kanzenoka maybe used their own driver too. And the tol line of abnormal, the dipios used their own driver. But it should diacontinued its production due too lact of some part for its driver.

Crow and diomnes used re-tuned and modded driver (old monk).

Red demun and edimun used retuned and modded edifier h180.

Cypherus is kinda controversial because they used advance driver, it's a local brand (for campfred and qfred, i dont know about cy-ax)

I cant say anything about heavenly sound because they have a lot of line up. And it's kinda controversial too. Only one builder and they can made that many line up in such short period of time. So, no comment
 
Jan 30, 2017 at 9:34 PM Post #17,089 of 80,435
Edimun V3 Rhodium and Red Demun arrived today.

Red Demun sound great right out of the box.

Edimun were kind of underwhelming though. They sound a bit dirty and not at all refined like I had expected, lacking distinct bass and with rolled of highs and poor micro detail. I'm using the full foams with four holes.

Wise from my experience with the Box B320 that changed signature significantly during first 10-15 hours of use, I'm wondering will the Edimuns change as well?



Same feelings about the edimun, let them burn in a little. Really matters. Red Demun sounds killer right away. After only about  day of burn in, edimun starts to sound amazing.

Give it some time to burn in. Out of the box, red demun is so great. But the edimun will show it's true form after burning
 
Jan 31, 2017 at 12:16 AM Post #17,091 of 80,435
I've said/asked it before, but it would be very cool to know how you retune a driver. It would be very awesome to buy a $3 or cheap bud and tune it to be an amazing boutique bud at home. I guess know one here knows how they do it?

I think they have they're own tricks and ingredients. I.e. the de'mun cable, you cant find it in other shop.
And i remembered something that mr.woo (blox builder) said, even just the glue can influence the sound that come out from earbud.
So i dont think someone besides the builder can produce the exactly same sound for that product. And i also think they will keep it as a secret, just to make it special and not mainstream
 
Jan 31, 2017 at 2:49 AM Post #17,093 of 80,435
Crow and diomnes used re-tuned and modded driver (old monk).
 

 
Does Diomnes really use original Monk drivers? It really sounds hi fi and very far from what I remember from the original Monk. Great job by ABnormal!
 
 
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Cypherus is kinda controversial because they used advance driver, it's a local brand (for campfred and qfred, i dont know about cy-ax)
 


Are you sure that CampFred and QFred use the same driver? They sound quite different from each other. They share a similar signature sound in the same way as for example all MusicMaker/Toneking earbuds share a signature sound but still sound quite different from each other. But perhaps Tomahawk and Ting for example use the same drivers?
 
Jan 31, 2017 at 4:06 AM Post #17,094 of 80,435
hello earbudlover, im new here and new for earbud too im decided to buy my starter pack earbud for now im looking to Yuin PK3 vs Tonneking/music maker Tomahawk my musics are all rounder and prefer good in vokal and good in soundstage (bass doesnt matter for me) also i need a recomendation under 10$ earbud i have vemonk+ and edifier h180 and i wanna try another good sounds does ty hiz 32 is good enough or i should get edifier h185?
 
Jan 31, 2017 at 4:13 AM Post #17,095 of 80,435
Are you sure that CampFred and QFred use the same driver? They sound quite different from each other. They share a similar signature sound in the same way as for example all MusicMaker/Toneking earbuds share a signature sound but still sound quite different from each other. But perhaps Tomahawk and Ting for example use the same drivers?

Yes. Diomnes v1 even still has ve mark on its housing. I dont know for v2, but they claimed there's no different between v1 and v2 except the color of the cable.

And for campfred i'm pretty sure. I dont know about the qfred. From what i've heard it also used advance driver, but different modifify technic and other parts (cable. Terminator, etc).

It just like other DIY earbud. Red demun and edimun used same driver but the sound is different. The crow, yhe raven, and diomnes used same driver but the sound sihn is totally different (i've ever had the crow and also diomnes).
 
Jan 31, 2017 at 4:13 AM Post #17,096 of 80,435
  hello earbudlover, im new here and new for earbud too im decided to buy my starter pack earbud for now im looking to Yuin PK3 vs Tonneking/music maker Tomahawk my musics are all rounder and prefer good in vokal and good in soundstage (bass doesnt matter for me) also i need a recomendation under 10$ earbud i have vemonk+ and edifier h180 and i wanna try another good sounds does ty hiz 32 is good enough or i should get edifier h185?

Qian 39, ty 32 and Philips SHE3800 would be good starters.
 
Jan 31, 2017 at 4:17 AM Post #17,097 of 80,435
hello earbudlover, im new here and new for earbud too im decided to buy my starter pack earbud for now im looking to Yuin PK3 vs Tonneking/music maker Tomahawk my musics are all rounder and prefer good in vokal and good in soundstage (bass doesnt matter for me) also i need a recomendation under 10$ earbud i have vemonk+ and edifier h180 and i wanna try another good sounds does ty hiz 32 is good enough or i should get edifier h185?


Get the h185 if you're looking for a clean vocal, sound wise its closer to monk+ than h180

Ty hi-z 32ohm is a very v-shaped buds. It is better than h185 build quality wise.

Looking at your username and profile pic, fan of Aimer and gundam, eh?
 
Jan 31, 2017 at 4:22 AM Post #17,099 of 80,435
Get the h185 if you're looking for a clean vocal, sound wise its closer to monk+ than h180

Ty hi-z 32ohm is a very v-shaped buds. It is better than h185 build quality wise.

Looking at your username and profile pic, fan of Aimer and gundam, eh?

yeah haha still confusing about both of ty hiz32 and h185, also yuinpk3 and tomahawk
lol, i was frustated to think my username so im pick one from my aimer collection song from my pc haha, yeah im bit fans of gundam 00 and Unicorn
 
Jan 31, 2017 at 4:26 AM Post #17,100 of 80,435
hello earbudlover, im new here and new for earbud too im decided to buy my starter pack earbud for now im looking to Yuin PK3 vs Tonneking/music maker Tomahawk my musics are all rounder and prefer good in vokal and good in soundstage (bass doesnt matter for me) also i need a recomendation under 10$ earbud i have vemonk+ and edifier h180 and i wanna try another good sounds does ty hiz 32 is good enough or i should get edifier h185?

Pk3 may fit your requirements of sound. Or other contender: boarseman mx985, ath c909, hifan es100, etc. I dont think tomahawk is good enough if vocal is what you're searching for. It has metallic sound and a little sibilance for high pitch note.

For $10 eaebud, edifier h185 or th hiz 32ohm is good choice. Qian 25/39 seems nice. though i never tried it, i will someday
 

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