cib24
Head-Fier
- Joined
- Dec 12, 2012
- Posts
- 64
- Likes
- 18
Hello all,
Long time lurker and finally decided to post a question to get opinions on the best replacement headphone for my needs going forward. I currently own a pair of Beyerdynamic 250 Ohm DT 880 Pros which I have had for two years. Prior to the DT 880's I owned a pair of Beyerdynamic 80 Ohm DT 770 Pros. I replaced the DT 770's after the rattle/distortion in the left ear cup became unbearable. It would no longer happen during very low bass frequencies but would happen during any sort of bass at all. I purchased the DT 880s due to the rave reviews on this forum and the fact that the bass was less intense so the chance of any rattle and distortion should have been greatly reduced. However, just about two weeks ago my DT 880s began to exhibit the same exact rattle in the left ear cup as my DT 770s did. Fortunately the rattle only occurs during low frequency bass at the moment but it is really starting to get on my nerves and piss me off.
I have taken several measures to try and correct the problem, especially since my headphones are now out of warranty, and they include:
So far nothing has really worked aside from applying pressure but even then it only works maybe 3/4 of the time when I force any potential rattling to stop. My guess is that the circular cone which the driver is attached to that fits between the foam and plastic retaining ring is moving around when the bass hits hard. I've no idea how to keep it from moving around aside from potentially gluing the circular cone to the plastic of the headphone where it rests. And even then, it only sits on a small ring of protruding plastic anyway so I'm not sure how reliable that method is. Additionally, I don't really want to glue something and not be able to get behind it should something else go wrong in the future.
I thought about sending the headphones into the UK distributor which does repairs but their charges are ridiculous. About £84 fixed repair charge excluding shipping costs and a £15 inspection fee. Their variable rate repair service is £25 per 15 minutes excluding shipping costs and a £15 inspection fee. I purchased the headphones for like £160 over two years ago and I'm not about to spend 2/3 - 3/4 of the cost just to fix a driver. Moreover, I'm sort of thinking that I need to move away from Beyerdynamic anyway since this has happened on two of different models in the past four years.
Now that I have come to the conclusion that I will likely need to buy a new pair of headphones, I have been doing a lot of research on different headphones on this site to try and determine what would be best for my needs. I initially chose the DT 770s because I lived in a college dorm room at the time and didn't want to keep my roommate up at night or disturb him when I was gaming, watching a film or listening to music. After the left cup began to rattle sounding like the trunk of a guy's pimped out Civic with too much bass, I began looking at the DT 880s because of their more balanced character compared to the DT 770s, high levels of detail, and very good sound stage and positioning for a semi-open phone. Overall, I felt the DT 880s were a tremendous improvement over the DT 770s and have really enjoyed them ever since. The only real downside to the headphones aside from the quality issue is that they are a bit bright and the positioning could honestly be better (tried a DT 990 which was way too bright but had great positioning).
My new headphones will only be used on my PC as I have a pair of IEMs to go with my Nokia Lumia. I currently have an ASUS Xonar Essence ST which has a built-in amp good up to 600 Ohms. Nowadays my listening habits are comprised of about 70% gaming, 20% movie watching and 10% listening to music. My new headphones should be an improvement over my DT 880s and I suppose what I would like is the following:
Headphones I have come across which may or may not have some of these characteristics are the Hifiman HE-400, Sennheiser HD 650, Ultrasone Pro 900, AKG Q701, and Audio-Technica ATH-AD900 (although I want to see what the ATH-AD900x has to offer). Please help with your own opinions on what would suit my needs.
Stax Lambda anyone? I wish but too expensive
Long time lurker and finally decided to post a question to get opinions on the best replacement headphone for my needs going forward. I currently own a pair of Beyerdynamic 250 Ohm DT 880 Pros which I have had for two years. Prior to the DT 880's I owned a pair of Beyerdynamic 80 Ohm DT 770 Pros. I replaced the DT 770's after the rattle/distortion in the left ear cup became unbearable. It would no longer happen during very low bass frequencies but would happen during any sort of bass at all. I purchased the DT 880s due to the rave reviews on this forum and the fact that the bass was less intense so the chance of any rattle and distortion should have been greatly reduced. However, just about two weeks ago my DT 880s began to exhibit the same exact rattle in the left ear cup as my DT 770s did. Fortunately the rattle only occurs during low frequency bass at the moment but it is really starting to get on my nerves and piss me off.
I have taken several measures to try and correct the problem, especially since my headphones are now out of warranty, and they include:
- Taking off the foam padding and removing any hair in the left ear cup and around the driver;
- Playing bass heavy music for several hours to try to pop out a potentially pressed diaphragm;
- Separating the three wires coming from the headphone cable in case they were causing any interference by touching one another and assuring that they are not touching the driver when put back together; and
- Applying pressure with my left ear on the foam padding when wearing the headphones to stop any potential rattling (this seems to get rid of about 95% of the problem).
So far nothing has really worked aside from applying pressure but even then it only works maybe 3/4 of the time when I force any potential rattling to stop. My guess is that the circular cone which the driver is attached to that fits between the foam and plastic retaining ring is moving around when the bass hits hard. I've no idea how to keep it from moving around aside from potentially gluing the circular cone to the plastic of the headphone where it rests. And even then, it only sits on a small ring of protruding plastic anyway so I'm not sure how reliable that method is. Additionally, I don't really want to glue something and not be able to get behind it should something else go wrong in the future.
I thought about sending the headphones into the UK distributor which does repairs but their charges are ridiculous. About £84 fixed repair charge excluding shipping costs and a £15 inspection fee. Their variable rate repair service is £25 per 15 minutes excluding shipping costs and a £15 inspection fee. I purchased the headphones for like £160 over two years ago and I'm not about to spend 2/3 - 3/4 of the cost just to fix a driver. Moreover, I'm sort of thinking that I need to move away from Beyerdynamic anyway since this has happened on two of different models in the past four years.
Now that I have come to the conclusion that I will likely need to buy a new pair of headphones, I have been doing a lot of research on different headphones on this site to try and determine what would be best for my needs. I initially chose the DT 770s because I lived in a college dorm room at the time and didn't want to keep my roommate up at night or disturb him when I was gaming, watching a film or listening to music. After the left cup began to rattle sounding like the trunk of a guy's pimped out Civic with too much bass, I began looking at the DT 880s because of their more balanced character compared to the DT 770s, high levels of detail, and very good sound stage and positioning for a semi-open phone. Overall, I felt the DT 880s were a tremendous improvement over the DT 770s and have really enjoyed them ever since. The only real downside to the headphones aside from the quality issue is that they are a bit bright and the positioning could honestly be better (tried a DT 990 which was way too bright but had great positioning).
My new headphones will only be used on my PC as I have a pair of IEMs to go with my Nokia Lumia. I currently have an ASUS Xonar Essence ST which has a built-in amp good up to 600 Ohms. Nowadays my listening habits are comprised of about 70% gaming, 20% movie watching and 10% listening to music. My new headphones should be an improvement over my DT 880s and I suppose what I would like is the following:
- Better build quality. I don't want anymore rattling or other annoyances to pop up;
- Possibly less bright than the DT 880s but definitely not more so;
- A touch more bass would be nice but not necessary as the DT 880 was a pretty good compromise;
- Detail as good or better than the DT 880s;
- An equivalent or better sound stage and better positioning capabilities;
- Maybe less clinical sounding than the DT 880s?; and
- Open or semi-open
Headphones I have come across which may or may not have some of these characteristics are the Hifiman HE-400, Sennheiser HD 650, Ultrasone Pro 900, AKG Q701, and Audio-Technica ATH-AD900 (although I want to see what the ATH-AD900x has to offer). Please help with your own opinions on what would suit my needs.
Stax Lambda anyone? I wish but too expensive