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Do these companies have patents filed as to who was first or is it who is first to market is the winner?
Electrets have a permanent charge - electrostats do not (and rely on an external bias supply). They are similar but different. The HD 800 comparison isn't really related imho (ring radiators are a type of dome driver, and while they have different radiation and performance characteristics than conventional cones, they are still very much dynamic transducers).
More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headphones#Electret
Sennheiser claims the Unipolar 2000 was the first open-back Electret headphone on the market. I believe Audio-Technica (and perhaps STAX) released models around the same time period, and just like the invention of the electrostatic headphone, there are competing claims to who got there first.
Do these companies have patents filed as to who was first or is it who is first to market is the winner?
The description on the wiki page for an electrostat is along these lines (if I got it right): charge on diaphragm, charge (audio signal) on metal plates that surround the diaphragm. The (covert) description on that page for an electret is the exact same: charge on diaphragm, charge on metal plates around the diaphragm. So electrets and electrostats operate on the very same principle, only differing in where the diaphragm charge comes from.
(But if one is to make a distinction that electrets aren't electrostats, they should maybe also start worrying about which amp an electrostat gets its charge from - whether they can be classed as true electrostats or not depending on the quality of the amp, since to me this dichotomy at its base seems a question of prestige, people wanting to separate cheaper electrets from the more expensive regular electrostats.)
I think you're right about the Unipolar claimed as being the first open electrets.
I don't see it as prestige; its just different operating modalities. They are separate albeit similar tech - even the manufacturers point this difference out. The biggest advantage of electrets in theory is being able to drive from "normal" amps (Look at the Rotel as an excample). I think the quality concerns are inflated - consider that electrets "died" in the 1980s - stats from that era aren't world-beaters either.
While the basic operating principle is similar, its like saying an isodynamic is a dynamic because it uses magnets - it grossly oversimplifies the discussion.
Though what's the difference in operating principle between regular electrostats and electrets - other than where the diaphragm gets its charge - which sets them apart so that it can be said that electrets aren't electrostats at all?
The diaphragm is permanently charged, it isn't receiving a bias supply from an amplifier or step-up transformer (which is what makes the distinction - whether or not the diaphragm is permanently charged or externally biased). They are very similar, but not the same thing. I really don't see why it's such an issue that they're distinct from other designs.
Can't seem to find a few facts, perhaps someone can help.
1978 Yamaha YH-1000 flagship orthodynamic headphones: How much were they at the time? They were fairly expensive flagship, but I can't find any price info. Nor with the 1981 YH-100, which were cheaper and replaced the previous flagship.
Did any other orthodynamic from [COLOR=444444]Audio-Technica, Radio Shack, Pacific Stereo, Lafayette, Bang & Olufsen, Burwen, Wharfedale or Stax rival those in that era?[/COLOR]
[COLOR=444444]In 1989 the Sony MDR-R10 was $2,500, the most expensive headphones ever, until the Orpheus a couple years later. I read the previously most expensive headphones were about $1,500. But WHAT WERE THEY?[/COLOR]
Thanks. The Koss ESP-950 came out in 1990, and is still sold today for about a grand with the amp. Not sure what it was back then, but probably less. I believe the Stax SR-Omega was their first flagship level headphone in 1993. The Lambda Nova was 1995, and the SR-007 flagship came out in 1998 for about $1,800. There was the 1987 Stax SR-Lambda Signature in 1987, but I doubt it was $1,500.
http://staxusa.com/History.html
Grado HP 1 in 1991 was $595. Sony ECR-800 came out in 1981, don't know what it cost.