[iFi audio]

Thanks! But sonically what would we expected to be different?

Higher EMI/RFI noise rejection makes background cleaner and darker, and it also boosts detail retrieval from it, while thicker wiring makes bass more impactful. That's the gist.

 

[SHAM CHUN YUEN]

I see thanks

 

[iFi audio]

I see thanks

Sure, anytime

 

[mugbot]

Higher EMI/RFI noise rejection makes background cleaner and darker, and it also boosts detail retrieval from it, while thicker wiring makes bass more impactful. That's the gist.

What utter nonsense. I'm an electrical engineer and there's no way a power cable could do any of that.
I'm sure iFi will be happy to back up their claims with some sort of measurement? Those characteristics are really easy to measure.

 

[panoptikon]

What utter nonsense. I'm an electrical engineer and there's no way a power cable could do any of that.
I'm sure iFi will be happy to back up their claims with some sort of measurement? Those characteristics are really easy to measure.

Did you, at any point, allow yourself to listen to power cables of different segments in a high resolution system? I did, at trade shows and other places, and the difference is real.

Measurements only gets so far in describing how something sounds. In fact, not that far at all. The belief that science can capture all aspects of the physical world as well as stimulus, is naive.

 

[mugbot]

Did you, at any point, allow yourself to listen to power cables of different segments in a high resolution system? I did, at trade shows and other places, and the difference is real.

Measurements only gets so far in describing how something sounds. In fact, not that far at all. The belief that science can capture all aspects of the physical world as well as stimulus, is naive.

Yes, including in a very quiet listening room at my local dealer. I'm convinced any differences you heard are not from the hardware, but from your own expectations.

Let's look at what a power cable does. Power is likely generated a great distance from your home, it then travels down uninsulated powerlines and through the wiring of your home. I just don't see how any sort of insulation can make a difference to noise in the final step of that journey - what about the rest? Let alone change the frequency response or the sound of the music produced. Modern power supplies are great at rejecting noise already, or you'd see different performance from your system depending on what other appliances you were using at the time, or even what your neighbours were using. I'm sorry but the claims here just don't stack up.

 

[panoptikon]

Yes, including in a very quiet listening room at my local dealer. I'm convinced any differences you heard are not from the hardware, but from your own expectations.

Let's look at what a power cable does. Power is likely generated a great distance from your home, it then travels down uninsulated powerlines and through the wiring of your home. I just don't see how any sort of insulation can make a difference to noise in the final step of that journey - what about the rest? Let alone change the frequency response or the sound of the music produced. Modern power supplies are great at rejecting noise already, or you'd see different performance from your system depending on what other appliances you were using at the time, or even what your neighbours were using. I'm sorry but the claims here just don't stack up.

It's somewhat of a bold claim to state what I, and I guess people in general, hear when eveluating components. I guess this opinion translates to other types of cables as well. Moreover, your claim implies that there is a conspiracy of sorts among manufacturers - to release products they actually know have no other effects than those that are psychological among consumers. I have been to demonstrations in rooms full of people where A/B-comparisons are made between cables of different segments, with no one objecting to the differences displayed, evident to all, as I interpret it.

I'm a social scientist and not the one to dig deep into technical factors and say what's left and what's right. I believe quaity power cables become important especially as the connection between something like the iFi PowerStation and an electrical component, where the integrity of the signal should be maintained. Intuitively, for me, it's not strange that a power cable can contribute to different sound signatures downstream.

Ultimately, though, we're posting in a thread about a cable release - to categorically bash cables *here* is probably to no one's appreciation.

 

[Mr BubbaHyde]

This conversation has been around forever, for me if you hear a difference that is great! For those that don't hear a difference, that is also great don't buy what you don't feel or hear.

But telling folks that they don't hear a difference or perceive a difference I will never understand.

To each his own, especially in the audio world!

Cheers!!

 

[Assationater]

These are fair questions. Nova and SupaNova cables feature 11 AWG live and neutral legs, 13 AWG grounding leg and polymer plug housings. Quasar and SupaQuasar feature 4 AWG neutral and live conductors, 10 AWG grounding wire, alloy plug housings and also RF filtering rings. Hope this helps, thanks!

The fact that this CRUICIAL info isnt anywhere on your offical product pages, nor specification page for the product is downright negligence. Please have your marketing team provide more info, most people appreciate the technical info you guys have for your products.

 

[Mr BubbaHyde]

The fact that this CRUICIAL info isnt anywhere on your offical product pages, nor specification page for the product is downright negligence. Please have your marketing team provide more info, most people appreciate the technical info you guys have for your products.

I agree, I will contact those who may be able to change this to provide more relevant information!

Thank you.

Cheers!!

 

[CopperFox]

Found this at a retailer's website.

 

[TheAbyss2022]

I currently have the Supanova cable and I was wondering if there were any sonic improvements with the Supaquasar?

Also is it better plugging the Supanova cable into my Amplifier or DAC? or both?