Tubewin
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I'm considering getting the Phoenix reclocker, currently have a jcat card straight into my dac. Anyone think the innuos reclocker is worth getting if I already have a jcat usb xe card going into the holo may?
Innuos Phoenix USB Reclocker
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Trial and error is the best way! For me switches always made a difference. Not so subtle either, especially when you have it for a while and suddenly take it out.
Look into network acoustics filters also, that item usuallybgoes after the switch. I can imagine some people hating all these extra boxes though.
Look into network acoustics filters also, that item usuallybgoes after the switch. I can imagine some people hating all these extra boxes though.
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Any updated thoughts on micro iUSB vs Phoenix? I have the micro and am considering the Phoenix.
GhiAB
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Hi,
I had both the Ifi Nano iUSB3 and the Micro iUSB3 individually and in series. They do make a difference but the Inuuos is many steps above. It depends on the source though. I never used the computer as a source. The price difference is massive.
I had both the Ifi Nano iUSB3 and the Micro iUSB3 individually and in series. They do make a difference but the Inuuos is many steps above. It depends on the source though. I never used the computer as a source. The price difference is massive.
Whazzzup
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Alrighty, looking into getting a discount code from my audio guy, if decent I’ll buy the new Phoenix usb reclocker regenerator and see what’s what, cheers.
Whazzzup
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ordered, hope to get for the weekend but whenever. black of course. fished out from storage an old audio quest diamond usb and ordered a audioquest nrg z3 power chord let you know my thoughts after a good burn in
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Via its super capacitor, and plugged into a perfect wave ps audio lps bar
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If you are interested in exploring, try powering it with either a Sean Jacobs or Farad Super 3.
Whazzzup
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ok needs to open up/ burn in/ warm up. Of course i had to test from get go and first thought, this is deep but too polite. give it hours and the cultured sound opens. its not as edgy and messy but imagery is nicely detailed, Its like a fine wine. I wasn't sure why i needed this device nor why i was looking, but for the pursuit of audio harmony. The phoenix is kinda like susvara, your first impression is what do i do with this harmonious HP? The answer, have the right pre amp and let it roll. Things just get a bit better at the expense of edge and air. after a couple weeks I'll go back to bare back from my antipodes to TT, and see what's what, but enjoying the change.
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Whazzzup
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its been a week and im loving the low end. its tighter, deeper and wider. take a genre that was so so to me before, smooth jazz, now im getting lost listening to smooth jazz for jeepers sake. never mind edm, r&b, hip hop....I think i could live without the phoenix, the more edge, air, less coherence in itself is enticing. But i know this usb regenerator is a keeper.
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Hey chaps, I’ve been kindly loaned a PhoenixUSB for the past month. It’s very impressive with the sonic characteristics well described in this thread - in particular a lovely flow, a lush midrange and weighty, musical bass.
I've taken the opportunity to try a few basic tweaks with it in case even more performance could be eked out. Actually my focus has been on closing the gap between some other DDCs and reclockers I have, but I can’t resist trying em with the Phoenix too. One in particular this evening reaped real dividends for marginal cost. An A4 sheet of 0.15mm thick ‘MuMetal’ equivalent highly magnetically permeable alloy just placed on top of the chassis deepened and tightened the already impressive bass even further and made the timbre of a double bass richer still. And y’know what was better than a sheet of MuMetal on top, two sheets that’s what. Not diminishing returns either, same again. Seriously weighty and rich, so palpable, oh the focus & layering!
Got it from here, as sharp prices as I’ve found for this 0.15mm thickness. Background is I had one sheet I used to shield the two toroidal transformers in my DAC - which I did by encasing them in cylinders with lids. It was so effective both sonically and measurement wise (a 5-10x reduction in field strength with my Gigahertz solutions meter) I promptly bought 4 more.
https://diyhifisupply.com/product/f...ding-sheet-0-15mm-305-x-203mm-or-12-x-8-inch/
Give it a whirl, pretty remarkable what even crude magnetic ‘shielding’ like this can achieve with far from an optimal 360 degree coverage. Just providing a flat plane as a more attractive alternative path to take a few of the stronger AC magnetic field lines up and away from sensitive componentry like its OCXO circuit, a few less micro level eddy currents induced as a result.
Edit - just discovered with my MF meter the Gustard U18 DDC sitting on the shelf above was radiating AC magnetic fields something chronic, so part of the effect may have been shielding between the two. Gustard now switched off, but fields generated from Phoenix are similar level. Anyway the positive sound delta with sheets vs not persists after Gustard turned off and is not subtle.. on top of the bass control there’s more palpable and focussed vocals, deeper soundstage etc.
Edit 2- due to space constraints the Phoenix is sitting directly on top of my Athena preamp, which coincidentally has its own transformers in a bottom layer segregated from the preamp signal path by a thick layer of MuMetal.. Denafrips build it this way. But it’s possible the Phoenix’s MFs have been messing with the Athena’s analogue gain stage circuitry so the MuMetal sheets I placed on top of the Phoenix may have lessened this by pulling the MFs up and away. So many variables. YMMV.
I've taken the opportunity to try a few basic tweaks with it in case even more performance could be eked out. Actually my focus has been on closing the gap between some other DDCs and reclockers I have, but I can’t resist trying em with the Phoenix too. One in particular this evening reaped real dividends for marginal cost. An A4 sheet of 0.15mm thick ‘MuMetal’ equivalent highly magnetically permeable alloy just placed on top of the chassis deepened and tightened the already impressive bass even further and made the timbre of a double bass richer still. And y’know what was better than a sheet of MuMetal on top, two sheets that’s what. Not diminishing returns either, same again. Seriously weighty and rich, so palpable, oh the focus & layering!
Got it from here, as sharp prices as I’ve found for this 0.15mm thickness. Background is I had one sheet I used to shield the two toroidal transformers in my DAC - which I did by encasing them in cylinders with lids. It was so effective both sonically and measurement wise (a 5-10x reduction in field strength with my Gigahertz solutions meter) I promptly bought 4 more.
https://diyhifisupply.com/product/f...ding-sheet-0-15mm-305-x-203mm-or-12-x-8-inch/
Give it a whirl, pretty remarkable what even crude magnetic ‘shielding’ like this can achieve with far from an optimal 360 degree coverage. Just providing a flat plane as a more attractive alternative path to take a few of the stronger AC magnetic field lines up and away from sensitive componentry like its OCXO circuit, a few less micro level eddy currents induced as a result.
Edit - just discovered with my MF meter the Gustard U18 DDC sitting on the shelf above was radiating AC magnetic fields something chronic, so part of the effect may have been shielding between the two. Gustard now switched off, but fields generated from Phoenix are similar level. Anyway the positive sound delta with sheets vs not persists after Gustard turned off and is not subtle.. on top of the bass control there’s more palpable and focussed vocals, deeper soundstage etc.
Edit 2- due to space constraints the Phoenix is sitting directly on top of my Athena preamp, which coincidentally has its own transformers in a bottom layer segregated from the preamp signal path by a thick layer of MuMetal.. Denafrips build it this way. But it’s possible the Phoenix’s MFs have been messing with the Athena’s analogue gain stage circuitry so the MuMetal sheets I placed on top of the Phoenix may have lessened this by pulling the MFs up and away. So many variables. YMMV.
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Stellabagpuss
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Jake I actually think your going to start a revolution with MuMetal or Ultraperm80. As the possibilities of placement are endless, l mean how easy is this tweek....
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