[throzen0303]

The new iPhone 5 will be announced in less than 2 hours, if the lightning port is replacing the 30-pin connector now, 
how would the LOD look or is it even possible to make LOD anymore?

 

[Vibemerchant]

Bit hard to tell if nobody knows the specifications of the new connector yet. As far as I can tell there were no connector-leaks, other then simply the change in size (which doesn't exclude a LOD)

 

[oldskoolboarder]

Looks like LOD is gone.  If so, that sucks.  Even video out is gone.
 
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-57511687-256/apples-dock-connector-change-is-awful-dont-kid-yourselves/

 

[SoulSyde]

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The new iPhone 5 will be announced in less than 2 hours, if the lightning port is replacing the 30-pin connector now, 
how would the LOD look or is it even possible to make LOD anymore?

 
Since there is an EOM adapter to convert from 30-pin to the new Lightning port I would assume that an aftermarket Lightning LOD will be a short matter of time.
 
See: http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phone-and-smart/apple-lightning-to-30/4505-6448_7-35446290.html

 

[bowei006]

The new plugs were said to be fully digital >_< . I'll hope that person just said it by accident, if it was fully digital then we wouldn't and seriously looking at it, I think it's gone, why would Apple have a seperate connector on the new switches just for audio? Very few people would hhave a use for it like that. BUT then again, there are docks that B and W are using that plug in directly
 
so it is still unknown if the new very small pluggs will support analog out from the DAC, depending on how you analyze it as I have said above, it could or couldn't have it. Let's await more details
 
Now the new earphons the earpods look interesting, the back ports were said to increase bass and side ones to increase vocal performance as Apple said more air = better performance. Just paraphrasing here, they would be nice to get a hold of and try as those earpods would probably be everywhere in a few years, so if the performance is good then hey, why not. The stock apple earbuds can already be said to be decent, lifeless and harsh, but "flatter" than many other paid earphones and not to mention they are stock free and worldwide iconic.

 

[fuzzyash]

i think the plugs are digital only...
"The fact that the Lightning port uses eight purely digital pins calls into question whether the Lightning adapter would actually work with many cars' existing iPod or even USB ports"
"Lightning does not have the capability to send an analog signal"
from http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-57511834-48/iphone-5-new-ipod-may-leave-some-cars-in-the-dust/
 
i think this pretty much seals the deal for the LOD then?
 
if there is no way for line out, amps would have to use the headphone out for the new apple products?

 

[justin w.]

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if there is no way for line out, amps would have to use the headphone out for the new apple products?

 
which is probably the exact same thing, anyway.  Apple has no reason to spend the $$ or the board space for separate headphone out and line out circuits.

 

[moodyrn]

Well, they are not the same on my iphone 4. I get distortion when ever I used the headphone out of my iphone, a good amount of it at that. I have to lower the volume for it to go away. But then the signal isn't as loud as it is from the lineout, and still doesn't sound quiet as clean. So there definitely some sort of amplification going on. It may not be much, but it's enough to distort the signal.

 

[justin w.]

Quote:

Well, they are not the same on my iphone 4. I get distortion when ever I used the headphone out of my iphone, a good amount of it at that. I have to lower the volume for it to go away. But then the signal isn't as loud as it is from the lineout, and still doesn't sound quiet as clean. So there definitely some sort of amplification going on. It may not be much, but it's enough to distort the signal.

 
have you connected your headphone directly to the line output?

 

[PChoon]

guys i think you can take a look at this...
 
http://networkedblogs.com/C5ixh
 
for better or worse???

 

[moodyrn]

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have you connected your headphone directly to the line output?

No, and I never care to. But like I said, I have compared both the headphone out and lineout with every portable amp I ever had, and the results are the same everytime. So why would I connect a headphone to the lineout anyway.  All I'm saying is that the lineout and headphone amp in my iphone 4 is not the same. And you don't have to go back and forth between the two to notice it. It's apparent "to me" as soon as you plug the line in cable to the headphone jack. The distortion is pretty obvious. Only after lowering the volume does the distortion go away. It's the same with both of my ipads(gen 1 and 3).

 

[fuzzyash]

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guys i think you can take a look at this...
 
http://networkedblogs.com/C5ixh
 
for better or worse???

what im getting from this is that they're making line-out cable but they have to be authorized...
so no DIY for now

 

[oldskoolboarder]

Almost sounds like for new iDevices using Lightning, any outboard amp would pretty much have to be a DAC now.  Plus there'd have to be some config on the iDevices to output the audio via Lightning so a DAC would work properly.  It would have to work like your Mac/PC when it recognizes a USB DAC is connected to it.

 

[oldskoolboarder]

There's still hope.
 
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/13/3329062/apple-lightning-hdmi-vga-cable-adapter-coming-months

 

[grokit]

I had a feeling HDMI audio would be part of this new standard...