Luxury & Precision (LP) Portable USB DAC/AMP W1 and W2 (The new W2-131 Version is Available, Related Info on Post #1)
Apr 5, 2021 at 12:27 PM Post #1,771 of 5,299
Listening to my Thummim via W2 and my Samsung S21 Ultra. Sounds ridiculously good. This dongle is such an excellent performer I'm finding it hard to believe.

I dentical setup apart from the S21. I'm still rocking the older S20.

My Fiio leather IEM case turned up too so loving this very portable solution.
 
Apr 5, 2021 at 12:29 PM Post #1,772 of 5,299
If you're using UAPP with W2 it wouldn't matter much which android you get from audio point
Except for when you leave the house and don't want to bring your W2 but still want to listen to music :wink:
 
Apr 5, 2021 at 1:41 PM Post #1,773 of 5,299
MMR Thummim > Eletech Plato 4.4mm > L&P W2 > Fiio Case = Got there in the end (for now...)
 

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Apr 5, 2021 at 1:54 PM Post #1,774 of 5,299
Apr 5, 2021 at 2:17 PM Post #1,776 of 5,299
Want to share some interesting new products, especially for those who are considering purchasing a small dongle like the Lotoo PAW S1.

Update: see post #43 for a first impression! :)

Update 2: see post #180 for English user manual and instructions.

Update 3: from Andrew @MusicTeck

“As far as we tested, there is no issues with W1 since it only draws 90mA, but W2 draws 110-120mA and iPhone has a limitation of 100mA to support external devices. So, when using W2 with iPhone 11 or 12 and W2 volume is over 70, it draws more current than iPhone allows and volume gets choppy and cuts off, even with that white cable. We suggest you set your iPhone to max volume, set W2 gain high and lower W2 volume below 70. That is when there are no issues with iPhone. Android phones and windows laptops don't have this issue. Only iPhones.”

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FW Update Info

Since most of the users cannot
download FW files directly from their official webpage, I have downloaded these files and then upload them to google drive so that everyone can access them.


General FW Update Steps (only for Windows 7/10 ATM).
  1. Download the FW update package (google drive links).
  2. Connect W1/W2 to your PC.
  3. Install the driver (WHQL_1222.zip and Windows 7 drivers if necessary).
  4. Install and run the FW update tool (ISP_Tool.exe) with FW file (ends in .bin; there are two such files in the package and you can use either of them).
  5. In case the upgrade fails or your W1/W2 is bricked, install this rescue driver.
You only need to install the driver and FW update tool once. For future FW updates, you only need to load the latest FW file to the FW update tool.


Latest FW: W1_V1.0.2.1_AS

  • Add the Xelento-tuned EQ
  • Add the Self-adapted UAC connectivity mode
  • Fix W2's balanced DSD output issue.
  • Improve connection stability.
To check your current FW version. Unplug your W1/W2 first. Then, keep holding the shorter of the two bottoms and plug the device into your PC. The device’s screen will display your current FW version.

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Some Preliminary Product Info

Luxury & Precision (LP) is launching its Portable USB DAC/AMP W1 and W2; W1 has 1 DAC chip and W2 has 2. For some of you who may be hearing this brand for the first time, LP made its name by producing high-end R2R DAP P6.

Both devices come in two outputs: 3.5mm and 4.4mm. The 3.5mm output is also a SPDIF output, allowing it to be used purely as a DAC and connect with other AMPs.

What is insane about these two products is the crazily low noise levels and huge output power. I cannot post the link to the other forum, but if you are interested just google the product names and you will see the measurements. Long story short, based purely on the measurements, it outperforms many desktop devices... Of course, we will need to wait for the actual products to tell whether it sounds good or not.

Some data for its power level (the third party measured numbers rather than OEM-supplied numbers):
Balanced:
32Ω 235mw
Single-ended:
32Ω: 125mw

W1 retails for 199 USD and W2 retails for 299 USD. Both W1 and W2 are now ready for order! Their advertisements suggest that the prices already include two cables in the box: one USB C-to-C and one USB C-to-lightening.
Can anyone tell me which file is the FW Update package or are all of them required to download?
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Apr 5, 2021 at 2:36 PM Post #1,777 of 5,299
Can anyone tell me which file is the FW Update package or are all of them required to download?
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Post #1 outlines the files you need to download and install.
 
Apr 5, 2021 at 2:38 PM Post #1,778 of 5,299
Post #1 outlines the files you need to download and install.
Where do you think I got the screen grab from? I read the directions and I don't see an update package file in the Google drive.
 
Apr 5, 2021 at 2:40 PM Post #1,779 of 5,299
Where do you think I got the screen grab from? I read the directions and I don't see an update package file in the Google drive.
The ones I said in the parentheses.
 

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Apr 5, 2021 at 2:57 PM Post #1,781 of 5,299
Coming back to my Shanling Q1 experiment:
It is working!
Playing from my 512 GB micro SD card on W2...
Interesting: not every USB cable is working.
E.g my new ddhifi cable isn't working but the original L&P cable does work!

Great small footprint setup!
Will need to see how long Q1 battery will last...

Edit:
- Guess what: White L&P cable is causing constant disconnections - am using my Qudelix 5k cable now without issues :sweat_smile:
- In HID Key mode volume is changeable with the nice click volume wheel in small steps 1by1, that's comfortable like my Apple Watch:thumbsup:
- Only downside is that you don't have Uapp on it but some basic 8 band system wide equalizer which seems to apply also to the USB-port.
 

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Apr 5, 2021 at 3:51 PM Post #1,782 of 5,299
MMR Thummim > Eletech Plato 4.4mm > L&P W2 > Fiio Case = Got there in the end (for now...)
Its not a bad case, eh? Mine arrived last week! Still waiting on the new Musicteck batch for the W2, should have bought the one already in the country and just got a refund on the pre-order. lol
 
Apr 5, 2021 at 3:57 PM Post #1,783 of 5,299
Its not a bad case, eh? Mine arrived last week! Still waiting on the new Musicteck batch for the W2, should have bought the one already in the country and just got a refund on the pre-order. lol
Good things come to those who wait. You won't be disappointed I'm sure. Yes, the case is very good. Thanks for the pointer on that.
 
Apr 5, 2021 at 4:08 PM Post #1,784 of 5,299
Good things come to those who wait. You won't be disappointed I'm sure. Yes, the case is very good. Thanks for the pointer on that.
Got one coming my way via AE. Will be a bit of a wait :D
 
Apr 5, 2021 at 4:16 PM Post #1,785 of 5,299
Is there a consensus on the best way to get the W2 and a phone in a pocket without regular interuptions? My current dongle setup (iphone to over-priced apple cable to dragonfly red) is really good in that I never hear any interruptions at all, but on an old phone, I would get tons of interuptions with my dragonfly. Seeing people say that issues with the iphone to w2 in their pocket was making me nervous. The ddhifi adapter > usb c-to-c otg cable > dac seemed like one more part than ideal, but if it works....
 

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