[johnjen]

Why not use the balanced outputs which provide ≈ double the output voltage swing?
To quote from their spec sheet…
Maximum Output: 4.0v RMS (balanced), 2.0v RMS (single-ended)




 
Unless your passive pre-amp is SE only.
 
Besides Schiit isn't into doing customization of their designs.
JustNotGunnaHappen…
 
And borrowing from their own published responses, if their equipment doesn't work for you there is plenty of other gear out there to choose from.
 
JJ

 

[landroni]

Precisely why we want schiit to do it for us

They won't even countenance repairs for modded gear until it's brought back to standard state... Why would you expect them to entertain actively modifying their own gear on someone else's behalf? Given their stated positions on modding, that's unlikely.

 

[donunus]

hey its worth asking plus its not really a mod. its a pretty standard thing to have 4 volt outputs.

 

[crazychile]

hey its worth asking plus its not really a mod. its a pretty standard thing to have 4 volt outputs.

Yes, it is a mod. And 4V SE output is NOT pretty standard.

 

[donunus]

standard for pro audio or higher end dacs

 

[donunus]

well I guess a certain market segment will have to skip the yggy. too bad

 

[crazychile]

Jason may have written something like this in an early chapter of Schiit Happened, or maybe I got it somewhere else:
 
 
In business you don't need everyone to like you. You just need a group who loves you.
 
 
Word, yo.

 

[Torq]

well I guess a certain market segment will have to skip the yggy. too bad

They can't make them fast enough as it is, so this unlikely to be much of an incentive.

Never heard of 4v SE outputs in the audiophile world. That'd overload the inputs on a ton of standard gear. In the pro world, almost everything I've seen has been balanced anyway.

You can't have gain with a passive pre-amp. They're just attenuators.

What "higher end" DACs have 4v SE outputs (that aren't also digital pre-amps with built-in volume controls)?

 

[Ableza]

4V line level is +4dBu and is common in SE pro audio or car audio where max gain is often desired over very long cable runs and to control the noise floor in a very noisy environment.  Consumer audio is -10dBu which is 1V p-p or 0dBV. Cable runs are short and noise is generally not an issue.  Connecting a +4dBu output into a standard consumer preamp can overload the input of the preamp.  +4dBu output into a -10dBV input the signal is coming in 11.79dB hotter than the gear was designed for

 

[Ableza]

FYI if you read the Yggdrasil specs, it is actually 0dBu (2V p-p) single ended and standard +4Vdbu (4V p-p) balanced.
 
Maximum Output: 4.0V RMS (balanced), 2.0V RMS (single-ended)

 

[donunus]

^It's going to be connected to a passive preamp to feed into a  single ended tube amp

 

[Ableza]

  ^It's going to be connected to a passive preamp to feed into a  single ended tube amp

Then you are good ​

 

[Jason Stoddard]

  What is up with Schiit these days? My cousin sent an email asking schiit if the yggdrassil could be modded to have 4 volt rca outs because he wanted to purchase one. No reply since the weekend.

A quick search of the tech@schiit.com email shows no such email, as far back as I can see. Sounds like he may have sent it to the wrong address (schitt, not schiit, is a common mistake.)
 
And, as everyone has already noted, I'm afraid the response will be, "No, sorry, we only build them one way."
 
In any case, getting a 4V RMS SE output is NOT "simple" in any way, shape, or form--it would require a complete circuit change (replacing the SE summers that have inherently a gain of 0.5 with an actual gain stage--with feedback to bring it back to unity gain). This is a much more complex topology than we are using, requiring a complete re-engineering of the analog board.

 

[vocalstrance]

The Theta DACs out 4v onto SE. That may be the way to go if 4v is truly a must have.

 

[donunus]

 
A quick search of the tech@schiit.com email shows no such email, as far back as I can see. Sounds like he may have sent it to the wrong address (schitt, not schiit, is a common mistake.)
 
And, as everyone has already noted, I'm afraid the response will be, "No, sorry, we only build them one way."
 
In any case, getting a 4V RMS SE output is NOT "simple" in any way, shape, or form--it would require a complete circuit change (replacing the SE summers that have inherently a gain of 0.5 with an actual gain stage--with feedback to bring it back to unity gain). This is a much more complex topology than we are using, requiring a complete re-engineering of the analog board.

Ok thanks for the reply. I will pass him the message. He may still be interested though regardless of not having a 4 volt option.