james444
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First of all, my apology to anyone who came here expecting a full review of these. Sadly I don't have the time for extensive writeups these days.
But I still think it's worth making a new thread for impressions of the e-Q8 and I'll start it with the ones I posted in the e-Q5 thread (and the questions / answers that have come up so far).
But I still think it's worth making a new thread for impressions of the e-Q8 and I'll start it with the ones I posted in the e-Q5 thread (and the questions / answers that have come up so far).
Just got the e-Q8 in. First thought: this sounds like an e-Q7 that passed through a correctional facility run by the ER4S. Objectivist brothers and sisters, rejoice!
... it just looks slightly longer in the body on all the photos I've seen. Are they the same length as the EQ7?.
How are the mids , do you think they are as forward as the eq7, as I found them a touch fatiguing, and preferred the mids on the eq5?
It's the exact same body as the e-Q7's. Actually, my first thought upon unpacking these was: "wait, they wouldn't dare to re-release the same phone just in a new color scheme?".
But in fact, the e-Q8's tuning feels like a more significant departure from the e-Q7's sound signature than the e-Q5's. And I wasn't joking when I said the ER4S seem to have had a hand in this.
Gone is the e-Q7's very slight mid-bass emphasis and midrange warmth, and the e-Q8's bass turns out extremely linear and non-emphasized. (I'd love to have those who think the JVC FX850 are balanced give the e-Q8 a listen and predict they'll call the Orto's bass entirely MIA). This low range linearity extends well into the midrange, but in the upper mids / lower treble things become very forward to my ears. Now, my Etys are on loan tour right now, but I believe that (from memory) the ER4S have a similar bump that makes female vocals sound really really close and intimate. Treble extension seems to be a significant step up from the e-Q7, though one should never trust an old fart like me when it comes to treble.
Overall I'd say the e-Q8's sound signature is somewhere in the vicinity of the ER4S and UERM, though the Ortofons sound probably even a tad leaner/thinner/sharper/more aggressively analytical than the those. Separation is excellent, but (like with the ER4S) soundstaging isn't quite up my alley. Granted, width isn't bad at all and they sound a good deal more out-of-head than the Etys, courtesy of a shallower fit. But that upper mid / lower treble bump kills any sense of distance and most of the layering for me, and everything in that range sounds simply very forward and in your face. (Disclaimer: individual HRTFs vary, and like with the ER4S, others may perceive things differently).
Bottom line: what a strange coincidence that Ortofon, Moller and Hammershoi all hail from the same country...
The e-q8 is thinner sounding than the ER-4S or just the UERM? How about sub bass below 60hz?
The Ety peak is around 2 to 3k. Are you perceiving the e-q8 hump there or higher?
Vs. the UERM for sure. Can't say with certainty vs. the ER4S, since I don't have them here. Bass extension is comparable to the e-Q7, pretty good presence down to 30Hz, only little rumble at 20Hz.
I'd think the e-Q8 peak is around the same range.
Is the treble smooth above that? If so, this reads well to me. I find the ety treble smoother (as in no peaks) and weightier than the uerm.
I remember the Ety's highs as forward, but surprisingly benign, whereas the e-Q8's can be borderline sharp at times. That's what I meant with "more aggressively analytical".
Hmm, that's a little worrisome. Thanks james444 for all the impressions.