Packgrog
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Well, thanks to a happy twist of fate, I am now the owner of a new VPI Player. Much more experimenting with the forthcoming as time allows.
Some initial thoughts:
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I've been debating this. As stated above, the Red can't track my R.E.M., so I'd like to upgrade to SOMETHING. I never really was that fond of the Ortofon house sound, but apart from the harsh highs, I haven't minded the Red on this system. Good punch, good drum/bass/guitar sound (cart still needs breaking in though), but vocals are just harsh. I've been very curious to try the AT150Sa, but I fear that like most Audio Technica carts, it may need some impossible custom loading to tame the bright highs. I'd love to go back to a Denon DL-110, but I fear that the headphone amp wouldn't have enough gain. So the 2m line seems like the best choice, given that the internal phono was pretty much tailor made for it, with perfect capacitance and resistance load matching. Given that I've hated every sample that I've heard for the Bronze, that leaves me wondering whether to be kind to my wallet and get the Blue stylus, or go all in on the Black full cartridge swap (the generator for the Black/Bronze being better than the one used for the Blue/Red). Before I bother with any of that, though, I need to get rid of that hum.
More impressions to come as I get more time to tinker, if anyone here is interested.
Some initial thoughts:
- First off, the stock felt(?) mat actually isn't bad. I decided to finally try the leather mat that I'd made years ago out of black deerskin, and it just sucked all of the life out of the music, so the stock mat went straight back on. I have not yet tried bareback (ie: vinyl directly on the bare metal platter), nor the Achromat 1200 that I have in limbo, as I haven't felt particularly thrilled with the idea of adjusting VTA, and the only clamp that I have is my Michell clamp, which likely would not work correctly with either option. I'm sure that I'll try each eventually to satisfy my curiosity. Whether or not to invest in the HRX weight is still an issue bouncing around in my mind.
- So far the only record that the Player (or more accurately the 2m Red) couldn't track was my pristine and well-cleaned copy of R.E.M. - Document. Very strange there. Did I clean it so well that it got to slippery? Are the grooves just too small for the caveman tool design of the 2m Red stylus?
- I have thus far only used the Player in stand-alone mode, separate from a receiver. I have noticed audible hum when using the built-in headphone amp and an external battery powered headphone amp via the line output of the Player. My hopes with this setup was that I wouldn't need it hooked up to anything else, so I'm a little concerned about how to eliminate the hum. I'm not sure if it's from a ground loop or if it's noise from the motor bleeding into the system. The stylus does not need to be in the groove.
- I have not yet tried bypassing the internal amps. There are no directions for it publicly available, apart from suggesting taking it to your local dealer to have them do it. Supposedly a 5-minute job. I hope to try it eventually to see how it works as just a regular turntable.
- As with any turntable, platform definitely makes a difference. Glass is BAD.
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Having a VPI Scoutmaster II with a 2M Black, and having listened to both the 2M Red and 2M Blue, I would suggest to anyone with the 2m Red to immediately upgrade to the Blue for $150 bucks more. There is nothing "wrong" with the 2M Red, but the Blue is 100% better. No kidding ... the SQ doubled for me when I went from Red to Blue in all areas: quieter background, better timbres/tones, richer and more accurate, more dynamism and emotional involvement.
I've been debating this. As stated above, the Red can't track my R.E.M., so I'd like to upgrade to SOMETHING. I never really was that fond of the Ortofon house sound, but apart from the harsh highs, I haven't minded the Red on this system. Good punch, good drum/bass/guitar sound (cart still needs breaking in though), but vocals are just harsh. I've been very curious to try the AT150Sa, but I fear that like most Audio Technica carts, it may need some impossible custom loading to tame the bright highs. I'd love to go back to a Denon DL-110, but I fear that the headphone amp wouldn't have enough gain. So the 2m line seems like the best choice, given that the internal phono was pretty much tailor made for it, with perfect capacitance and resistance load matching. Given that I've hated every sample that I've heard for the Bronze, that leaves me wondering whether to be kind to my wallet and get the Blue stylus, or go all in on the Black full cartridge swap (the generator for the Black/Bronze being better than the one used for the Blue/Red). Before I bother with any of that, though, I need to get rid of that hum.
More impressions to come as I get more time to tinker, if anyone here is interested.