Schiit Lyr - The tube rolling thread
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Mar 30, 2013 at 10:59 AM Post #6,062 of 8,735
Can someone make a recommendation for tubes to drive HE-500s? I'd rather go with something Schiit sells - E88CC, 6N1P, 6B7Z. Or, order from someone with a good reputation. I'm about to order a Lyr/Bifrost. I'll be thrilled if it sounds great right away, and I'll experiment with rolling later on. Thanks!
 
Mar 30, 2013 at 12:13 PM Post #6,063 of 8,735
6N1P and 6B27 are quite OK. E88CC are very thin sounding. Each has its own character. I prefer 6N1P for their richer and fuller sound. 6B27s on my system sounds like treble is tamed more than I would want it to be. They do have wider soundstage and more intimate vocals though. I have never tried any tube beyond those 3sets ordered from Schiit. I would be interested in sub $100 range tubes though. Don't feel like putting in much $ into tube rolling. :)
 
 
Mar 30, 2013 at 12:14 PM Post #6,064 of 8,735
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Can someone make a recommendation for tubes to drive HE-500s? I'd rather go with something Schiit sells - E88CC, 6N1P, 6B7Z. Or, order from someone with a good reputation. I'm about to order a Lyr/Bifrost. I'll be thrilled if it sounds great right away, and I'll experiment with rolling later on. Thanks!

 
Depends on how the sound signature of HE-500 is and also, what do you want to add/remove to/from that signature?
 
Also budget, if you don't set a budget people will be telling you to get all sorts of $400 tubes.
 
With my experience with the Schiit tubes, their 6N1P-VI (Novosibirsk) tube is very warm with the treble muddy and rolled off, the GE 6BZ7 is quite neutral, and pretty mediocre in every way, does everything well but not really outstanding, maybe a tad bright in the treble.
 
Whatever E88CC tube schiit supplies i haven't tried.
 
Mar 30, 2013 at 1:29 PM Post #6,065 of 8,735
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What tubes you are using now? My budget will be around 100USD for a pair of tubes.
 
 
Mar 30, 2013 at 1:52 PM Post #6,067 of 8,735
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What tubes you are using now? My budget will be around 100USD for a pair of tubes.
 

 
Lorenz PCC88 and Siemens PCC189 are my favourites at the moment.
 
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Thanks Archer and Pooters. Yeah, when people talk about tubes that cost as much as the amp itself, I get nervous. I'll grab 2 of what Schiit offers, and see if it makes any perceptible difference at all before I start really exploring. 

 
There are some really good budget tubes to be had.
 
I bought some Siemens PCC189 tubes and they are a lot better than any of the stock tubes, also Lorenz PCC88 tubes were bit more expensive but again, improvement over stock tubes. These are both my tubes of choice at the moment.
 
You don't need to spend a fortune to get better sound.
 
Mar 30, 2013 at 3:02 PM Post #6,068 of 8,735
Where do you get them? May I ask?
 
 
Mar 30, 2013 at 3:04 PM Post #6,069 of 8,735
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Don't bother looking for the real deal Lorenz. They don't exist.
 
Mar 30, 2013 at 3:14 PM Post #6,070 of 8,735
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Mar 30, 2013 at 3:27 PM Post #6,072 of 8,735
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Those are Stuttgart's, I believe. However of the many pair I had all were PCC88 not sure what SQ differences,
but those differ by not being 7 volts.

 
Ahh i see, so that's why everyone jumped on the SEL Lorenz PCC88's, hoping they would sound the same. I'm assuming same tooling was used, just made by another company? So sound should be pretty close if not exact?
 
Mar 30, 2013 at 3:54 PM Post #6,073 of 8,735
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Ahh i see, so that's why everyone jumped on the SEL Lorenz PCC88's, hoping they would sound the same. I'm assuming same tooling was used, just made by another company? So sound should be pretty close if not exact?

The SEL's are pretty good comparatively to other affordable tubes. They're actually much better than most of the mid-tier tubes.
 
They don't really sound the same though.
 
Real Lorenz are older, rarer, etc and more importantly made in Germany. SEL made not in Germany but other parts of Europe.
I believe the more popular SEL are Nish Yugoslavian made.
 
The plants are what make the differences, different tech, better resources, etc.
 
Mar 30, 2013 at 4:20 PM Post #6,074 of 8,735
Got my Lyr & Bifrost today. Started with BB 6DJ8s. So far, very nice.
 
Mar 30, 2013 at 5:25 PM Post #6,075 of 8,735
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Got my Lyr & Bifrost today. Started with BB 6DJ8s. So far, very nice.


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