Sennheiser HD650 & Massdrop HD6XX Impressions Thread
Jun 10, 2011 at 3:09 PM Post #3,376 of 46,527


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Nice one, and welcome!
 
Keep us informed on how you are finding them. A lot of people find the 600's soundstage slighly larger, (I havent heard them so can't comment) so its good to hear that you find it better.

 
You got it mixed up. The HD650s have the larger soundstage (in addition to better bass extension and scalability).
 
 
 
Jun 10, 2011 at 4:09 PM Post #3,379 of 46,527


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Shah, this is slightly off-topic but when you receive your HE-500s, please do post some comparisons to the HD650s here.  
 

 
Not a prob.
 
 
 
Jun 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM Post #3,381 of 46,527


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You got it mixed up. The HD650s have the larger soundstage (in addition to better bass extension and scalability).
 
 



Sorry you are right as always. The 650's have a larger soundstage... sorry again. I get so mixed up sometimes.
 
...and in regards to scalabilty.... well, I don't know what to say...  
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Jun 10, 2011 at 6:38 PM Post #3,382 of 46,527


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Sorry you are right as always. The 650's have a larger soundstage... sorry again. I get so mixed up sometimes.
 
...and in regards to scalabilty.... well, I don't know what to say...  
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No worries bud...and I'm not always right.
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Jun 10, 2011 at 11:32 PM Post #3,383 of 46,527
So, I've been loving my 650s for the past 2 months, but I'm wondering if I can get more out of them than I am with my E7/E9. I've heard a lot of buzz about this Schiit Valhalla, and am wondering what a good USB DAC ($200-300 USD) may go with it (home use, don't need to move it around). Any suggestions?
 
 
 
 
Jun 10, 2011 at 11:58 PM Post #3,384 of 46,527


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Not a prob.
 


Looking forward to reading that. There's no question you've heard the HD650 at its best and will present a balanced comparison. With the exception of impressions of the LCD-2 or HE-6, I'm quite wary of the hyperbole laced proclamations of such and such ortho putting the HD650 to shame. The lower tier orthos seem to be getting a lot of attention lately and it's been stated and now regurgitated by those who haven't even heard both, that the HE-4 blows the HD650 out of the water. Personal preferences aside, I suspect those making these comments haven't heard the HD650 through components that do it justice. This is from a Headfonia article on the HE-4:
 
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It certainly is more lively and musical than the Beyerdynamic DT880 and the AKG K701, somewhat closer to the energy of the Grado but with a better articulation level in the bass and an overall bigger sound. Compared to the dark and polarizing Sennheiser HD650, the HE-4 is more nimble, making it a better pairing for the majority of medium to fast music we have today, though the HD650 is still smoother, more refined, and scales up better.
 

 
 
Now the HE-500 may be a more substantial upgrade to justify the expense but the HD650 comparison towards the end of this article gives me pause. Some selective quoting:
 
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Now, a well amped HD650 will give you:
1. Better soundstage image, better three dimensionality, better
layering, better depth.
2. Better micro details.
3. Better dynamic range.

 

 
 
Seems like the LCD-2 is the only way to go for someone who loves the HD650 in the first place.
 
Jun 11, 2011 at 12:21 AM Post #3,385 of 46,527


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So, I've been loving my 650s for the past 2 months, but I'm wondering if I can get more out of them than I am with my E7/E9. I've heard a lot of buzz about this Schiit Valhalla, and am wondering what a good USB DAC ($200-300 USD) may go with it (home use, don't need to move it around). Any suggestions?
 
 
 

 
For the DAC, a Twisted Pear Opus with a Ballsie Lite would work well.  I'm loving mine to death.  The build is $262 + case + connectors so roughly $320 ball park, maybe $340 if you splurge on panel components.
 
On topic, since I have my Opus complete now, HD 650's are next on the list! :)
 
 
 
Jun 11, 2011 at 3:39 AM Post #3,386 of 46,527


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Shah, this is slightly off-topic but when you receive your HE-500s, please do post some comparisons to the HD650s here.  
 
 
 


Although I would like to read it too it's defo an unfair comparison, HE-500's are twice the price of the 650's. A more fairer comparison would be the HE 5LE's these are only about $200 more than the 650's.   
 
 
 
Jun 11, 2011 at 9:48 AM Post #3,387 of 46,527
Currently HD650 is powered by a DAC/amp combo, I suppose the HD650 would definitely benefit from proper amping. Would Schiit Lyr be the "final" amp to get or is there something better for the money?
 
Jun 11, 2011 at 10:29 AM Post #3,388 of 46,527


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Currently HD650 is powered by a DAC/amp combo, I suppose the HD650 would definitely benefit from proper amping. Would Schiit Lyr be the "final" amp to get or is there something better for the money?



The Lyr would be a good choice if you planned to upgrade to Ortho's in the future. The HD650's sound's wonderful with the Lyr but it is overkill if you are planning on staying with the HD650's as your only can for a significant period of time.
 
 
 
Jun 11, 2011 at 10:42 AM Post #3,389 of 46,527
My view on this hobby, in terms of importance, headphones > source > amp. Thus, the whole idea is to buy an amp that is "future-proof". I'm looking into getting a LCD2 or HE6 towards the end of the year once funds permit.
 
Jun 11, 2011 at 10:51 AM Post #3,390 of 46,527


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My view on this hobby, in terms of importance, headphones > source > amp. Thus, the whole idea is to buy an amp that is "future-proof". I'm looking into getting a LCD2 or HE6 towards the end of the year once funds permit.


 
Then the Lyr would be a great choice for you, that's what I did I had the HD650's and bought the Lyr then upgraded to the LCD-2's
 

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