[Shanling]

@Shanling can the Q1 be used with the UA2?

I am very happy with the Q1 but since you don't seem to updating MTouch DAP's any time soon I am looking for a option to take the Q1 to the next lever sound quality wise. Would the UP5 be a better option though it has dual lower end 9219C DAC would it it be that much of a step up in sound over the Q1. I am looking at the M3X as well if neither of these takes the Q1 sound to the next level but it is a much more expensive option.

Any feedback would be appreciated

UA2 do not work properly with Q1 at this time. As UA2 was further customized to work better with Android and iOS, the volume control on Q1 is not properly compatible with it.

UP5 works fine with Q1. But I don't think getting it just as SUB dongle for Q1 would be worth it. But if you would also use it over Bluetooth with your phone, then it would make more sense.

 

[fish1050]

UA2 do not work properly with Q1 at this time. As UA2 was further customized to work better with Android and iOS, the volume control on Q1 is not properly compatible with it.

UP5 works fine with Q1. But I don't think getting it just as SUB dongle for Q1 would be worth it. But if you would also use it over Bluetooth with your phone, then it would make more sense.

Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.

As an alternative I have been looking at desktop option and I was looking at the Shanling BA1 but it is also using the 9218P so not likely much of an upgrade in sound. Any chance Shanling will be updating the BA1 with a more current chip like the 9219C?

Would the Q1 work via USB out to a desktop USB amp/DAC like the BA1? I was looking at the Topping DX30 Pro + as well but reviews indicate to stay away if you are using low impedance headphones. Any recommendations as a good not to expensive desktop option?

 

[Shanling]

Definitely not BA1, that would be even lower than Q1 in sound quality.

We do not plan any replacement for BA1.

Q1 works as USB transport for many desktop DACs, just better to avoid the USB powered ones.

 

[fish1050]

Definitely not BA1, that would be even lower than Q1 in sound quality.

We do not plan any replacement for BA1.

Q1 works as USB transport for many desktop DACs, just better to avoid the USB powered ones.

Thanks for the quick response. I am zeroing in on the Topping DX30 Pro+ after more research (DC power, not USB powered). For not much more than a UP5 it has so much more to offer. The only question is the ES9038Q2M DAC chip and how it compares to the 9218P. I know it is the implementation more than the DAC but they are both older DAC and DAC/Amp chips released about the same time but the ES9038Q2M seems to be a higher end DAC based on measurements I found.

Along with connecting my Q1 to it at home via USB I have a couple of computers to connect to it via coax and optical inputs and it supports all the bluetooth codecs so I can even stream to it from my phone.

I often wonder why more people don't opt for desktop options vs buying heavy, expensive and often not really portable DAP's. No batteries to wear out, greater flexibility and the power to drive the most demanding headphones and it comes with a remote control. Use the Q1 on the go and then connect to the Topping at home for the best sound in the best listening conditions.

 

[Shanling]

Firmware update for Shanling UA2 USB DAC/AMP - V1.92.12

New firmware reduces power consumption of the UA2, prolonging battery life of your smartphones.

https://en.shanling.com/article-UA2V9212.html

 

[KazuMae]

Firmware update for Shanling UA2 USB DAC/AMP - V1.92.12

New firmware reduces power consumption of the UA2, prolonging battery life of your smartphones.

https://en.shanling.com/article-UA2V9212.html

Updated to this firmware. I notice that my output volume is significantly higher that what i used to be

 

[Shanling]

Updated to this firmware. I notice that my output volume is significantly higher that what i used to be

We made no adjustment to the output. Maybe check if the gain setting wasn't changed after firmware update?

 

[Vackor]

Old topic but maybe relevant. The latest firmware(s) solved the music break problem, the UA2 works flawless both on Galaxy S10E and Win10.
Thank You Shanling!

 

[unluckyTG]

I have question about energy consumption. My UA1 device is too hot while in use. Really too hot, not just warm. After some investigation with ADB batterystats I found that my UA1 consumption around 200 ma. Equal 1W. My device is broken? Because I have doubt that is normal. Thanks.

 

[Shanling]

I have question about energy consumption. My UA1 device is too hot while in use. Really too hot, not just warm. After some investigation with ADB batterystats I found that my UA1 consumption around 200 ma. Equal 1W. My device is broken? Because I have doubt that is normal. Thanks.

0.2A is normal for UA1. UA2 or UA5 go a little bit lower, but that is due to their further optimization.

Any idea what temperature your UA1 is reaching?

 

[unluckyTG]

@Shanling
I have not ir termometer, But I guess around 60+ .
What Shanling DAC has min battery consumption? I want get new, because this one cooking my hips.
And I have another (minor) issue. I have clipping at full volume. Clipping gone at -6db. This is my phone or it's should be?

 

[Shanling]

@Shanling
I have not ir termometer, But I guess around 60+ .
What Shanling DAC has min battery consumption? I want get new, because this one cooking my hips.
And I have another (minor) issue. I have clipping at full volume. Clipping gone at -6db. This is my phone or it's should be?

UA2, UA3, UA5 are able to run at lower consumption, depending on what you playing. (If you stay away from DSD256 or DSD512)
Are you running any EQ software or DSP?

 

[unluckyTG]

@Shanling
No DSP, no equalizer. IDK, mayebe it's just me, I mean my skin sensitive for high temperature. If you say that 200 ma it is normal then ok, let it be.
Most time I listen aac 128 kbit, my headphones Takstar 80 pro (60ohm). But with koss porta pro the same consumption, even without load using as line out for speakers.
Thanks for reply.

 

[unluckyTG]

Shanling UA 1 issue report (v 1.86.30)
Issue description:
No sound output. This happens while rewinding or stop - play action. It may be a minute or an hour after connecting. Only reboot helps. Confirmed on my two Android devices (Samsung A10s, Lenovo TB-X606F).

 

[Shanling]

Shanling UA 1 issue report (v 1.86.30)
Issue description:
No sound output. This happens while rewinding or stop - play action. It may be a minute or an hour after connecting. Only reboot helps. Confirmed on my two Android devices (Samsung A10s, Lenovo TB-X606F).

Can you tell me what software you using? Because this will be issue with the software pairing, not a simple issue on he UA1.