I have joind the club with Sol P-SE and I must agree. Before checking out both Sol P and P-SE my next set of cans for Envy should be Susvara. After T+A demo I have bought Sol the next day. As for TC I honestly do not get those cans. Getting them right on my head is next to impossible. Soundwise with Envy they are nothing special unless somebody is going after a lof of bass including artificial one. Solitaires instead gives true transparency and are brilliant for any type of music while excels in jazz, classical, live. The only drawback is that there is no traveling case in original package and so when I am traveling they need to stay at home so I do miss them