[nymz]

And that doesn't effect the overall sound quality? It is a multi driver unit and then some.

It changes the tuning, I'm yet to hear it but impedance adapters have been used before to shape FRs.

This is a problem that affects more sets, usually BA, more than you think. But it's generally the other way around - using the lowest OI source you can find and not the higher. Seems KZ tuned it at around 15ohms, give it or take, where most current market sources are 1ohm or below.

Examples:

 

[Jmop]

This is a problem that affects more sets, usually BA, more than you think. But it's generally the other way around - using the lowest OI source you can find and not the higher. Seems KZ tuned it at around 15ohms, give it or take, where most current market sources are 1ohm or below.

Yeah that's what I'm saying, it's only 15ohms so it really shouldn't be fed source output over say 2ohms. I've read reports of people who do switch up source output to influence frequency response but from my understanding and experience the sound quality ends up suffering, though single dynamics can handle it well and maybe some single armatures.

Edit: Forgot to address the impedance adapter part. It could work, but I think using something like IEMatch could still negatively effect sound quality unless it's a single driver.

 

[baskingshark]

New KBEAR product, the Ormosia. Seems to be a 1 BA + 1 DD hybrid

https://hifigo.com/collections/new-arrival/products/kbear-ormosia

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004573570612.html

$99 USD. Quite a tough price bracket to release at, many big boy competitors there.

 

[firesign]

The graph of the RSV is surprising.

It's unbelievably good up to 9 kHz, and after that it's the absolute nothing. It's a pity, because if it had more energy above 9 kHz, I would have bought it a long time ago.

 

[Dsnuts]

So I want to draw a bit of attention to some headfier friends that have been MIA. @IEMusic and @peter123
IEMusic has been MIA since December of last year and it was surprising to see Peter MIA since November. Any word on whats going on with these two?

 

[RikudouGoku]

Yeah that's what I'm saying, it's only 15ohms so it really shouldn't be fed source output over say 2ohms. I've read reports of people who do switch up source output to influence frequency response but from my understanding and experience the sound quality ends up suffering, though single dynamics can handle it well and maybe some single armatures.

The reason why they affect the FR, is because hybrids and multi-BA/BA-only have an uneven impedance curve along with a low impedance.

single DDs and planars are flat.

 

[PhonoPhi]

The reason why they affect the FR, is because hybrids and multi-BA/BA-only have an uneven impedance curve along with a low impedance.





single DDs and planars are flat.

More to it: hybrids and multi-BAs have crossovers, where the power distribution is managed. In a simple concept: drivers are connected with different resistive loads, so at different source impedance, currents (and power) to different drivers can vary significantly.
Here is a good reading recommended by @cqtek : Headphone & Amp Impedance.

 

[jmwant]

Kbear Ormosia , latest hybrid IEMs with unique straight down wearing design.

 

[BCool]

New KBEAR product, the Ormosia. Seems to be a 1 BA + 1 DD hybrid

https://hifigo.com/collections/new-arrival/products/kbear-ormosia

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004573570612.html





$99 USD. Quite a tough price bracket to release at, many big boy competitors there.

Cable-down too, don't see that often in this price bracket. I'll have to add it to my database once reviews come out.

 

[firesign]

So I want to draw a bit of attention to some headfier friends that have been MIA. @IEMusic and @peter123
IEMusic has been MIA since December of last year and it was surprising to see Peter MIA since November. Any word on whats going on with these two?

I had also noticed @IEMusic MIA, he participated in many threads in which I was also.

 

[Dsnuts]

Guy used to post all the time and just dissapeared. Peter hasn't been posting but usually participates in our thread here. Anyone know these guys please feel free to chime in. I actualy PMed IEMusic. Guy never replied.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

Guy used to post all the time and just dissapeared. Peter hasn't been posting but usually participates in our thread here. Anyone know these guys please feel free to chime in. I actualy PMed IEMusic. Guy never replied.

Honestly, members come and go. Guys like @sfwalcer @DannyBai @bhazard and @jwbrent used to drop posts all the time and were quite active for a long time, and then they just fell off, so I think that's to be expected nowadays @Dsnuts

 

[Dsnuts]

I chat with @DannyBai on a daily basis. Guy is not as active as he was but he is around. Was playing this game with him last night. If your a gamer. You need to play this.
scroll to the midde of this vid to see what this is all about. It is too much fun.

 

[paulwasabii]

It affects the sound signature.
Thr green curve there is actually using TRI TK2 as the source that has the reported (by users rather than the maker) output impedance: Zout of the SE output is close to 10Ω, while the Zout of the balanced output is almost 20Ω.
(The graph is likely using balanced output, but it may need to be confirmed)

The significant part of the signature is arguably the source.
What I personally hear with the 30-Ohm adapter is a bit different: less mid bass, more punchy bass, more upper mids, i.e. loosing some warmth at higher source inpedance.
TK2 may be an ideal source for AS16 pro - the tightly knitted ChiFi village

P. S. KZ purportedly tuned AS16 pro using an 18-Ohm source/tuning gear - if you are interested, look for more information in recent discussions in the KZ thread.

You got it, TK2 balanced..almost positive. I had been trying different sources, some 3.5mm but my impedance adapters are 2.5mm also.
CCA BTX is between my es100 and TK2.

 

[Carpet]

Akros review in on KZ AS16 pro​