[ginetto61]

HI !  sorry but the critical clock is not the one in the receiving end ?  
i mean without considering reclocking dacs the interface rj45 to spdif will sets the master clock.   
I mean, with the Dante virtual software just a normal rj45 pc port or cheap ethernet adapter should be enough with the Rednet 3.
Am i wrong ?  
regards, gino 

 

[rb2013]

HI !  sorry but the critical clock is not the one in the receiving end ?  
i mean without considering reclocking dacs the interface rj45 to spdif will sets the master clock.   
I mean, with the Dante virtual software just a normal rj45 pc port or cheap ethernet adapter should be enough with the Rednet 3.
Am i wrong ?  
regards, gino 

Yes you are right, but is a $1000 PCIe card, not cheap. Just a look at what clocking the RD3 might have. You can use a
PCIe NIC, but on a newer PC the built in Ethernet should be fine. I have read that Intel improved the GB LAN performance in the Haswell chipset.

And kinda funny looking for a GB Intel card that works with WIN10, without needing drivers, couldn't find any at a reasonable cost.

 

[ginetto61]

   
Yes you are right, but is a $1000 PCIe card, not cheap.   Just a look at what clocking the RD3 might have. 

 
Hi and thanks and sorry but i have not understood.
I was thinking that using the DVS software only the RD3 is really needed.   Am i wrong ?
Any ethernet port on the bus or on a cheap pcie card can be connected with the RD3 
 

You can use a PCIe NIC, but on a newer PC the built in Ethernet should be fine.  I have read that Intel improved the GB LAN performance in the Haswell chipset.    

And kinda funny looking for a GB Intel card that works with WIN10, without needing drivers, couldn't find any at a reasonable cost.

 
 
You  mean something like this ... quite cheap indeed. 
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Gigabit-Dual-PORT-GIGABIT-ETHERNET-PCIe-NIC-Card-EXPI9402PT-NC360T-/171993184025?hash=item280b97b719:g:cc4AAOSwwbdWQZJs
 

 
Regards,  gino 

 

[roger7]

 
There is nothing about AES67 that equals USB or that DNLA 'solution' either.  Haven't read much of this thread have you.
 
And well the fact you're using the flawed DNLA/UpNP speaks volumes. 
 
The fact that a higher std CAT6 might out perform a CAT5 - is not surprising.  If you're using a CAT6e or CAT 7 STP cable well - you have no galvanic isolation - without adding in your ethernet isolator.  You create the problem that you then need to solve.  Makes little sense.  What so you can have some macho over engineered 1/2 pound metal rj45 connector?  Design for +2G lateral acceleration - like the intona?
 
Oh to then to use a USB device after the microrendu is even more insanity.  Take galvanicaly isolated ethernet - galvanicaly couple it - to now have to add a galvanic isolator to then run to USB device that then needs that bauky Intona to again galvanicaly isolate it is nuts.  All to be trapped into having to use a UpNP player.
 
Next....

 
There is no standard like CAT6e only CAT6a. And it could be UTP (not shielded) - so there is inherent galvanic isolation

 

[roger7]

 
Sure give me a day to rewire.
 
It appears the Mutec needs to see 5VDC power on the USB - probably a relay.  Don't think a LPS is needed there.

 
Have you had a chance to compare in these setups?

 

[rb2013]

   
There is no standard like CAT6e only CAT6a. And it could be UTP (not shielded) - so there is inherent galvanic isolation

I think he refers to these 'audiophile' stp CAT6 cables with the mega metal shielding. The the shielding re-introduces galvanic issues - so then he needs to add an expensive etherrnet galvanic isolator.
 
This is all just 10GB LAN overkill.  Typical audio-nervousa.
 
http://www.katerno.com/detail/s/661687/p/C7OS-114BK/?_vsrefdom=adwords&gclid=CjwKEAjwpqq6BRC99aKUkaSjuDsSJAC0pNTV_1TyfYSPA5OAl_iKTX9p3Exl5A8uDnG1XWM2MZRzdxoC7iPw_wcB

 

[rb2013]

   
Have you had a chance to compare in these setups?

Not yet sorry will do so, wife permitting tonight.

 

[rb2013]

   
Hi and thanks and sorry but i have not understood.
I was thinking that using the DVS software only the RD3 is really needed.   Am i wrong ?
Any ethernet port on the bus or on a cheap pcie card can be connected with the RD3 
 
 
 
You  mean something like this ... quite cheap indeed. 
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Gigabit-Dual-PORT-GIGABIT-ETHERNET-PCIe-NIC-Card-EXPI9402PT-NC360T-/171993184025?hash=item280b97b719:g:cc4AAOSwwbdWQZJs
 

 
Regards,  gino 

No none of these are needed just the existing rj45 ethernet port on your PC (where you connect to the internet).

 

[vhsownsbeta]

F-1 has arrived. As a point of reference, I ordered mine from the ebay store on 12/05. I will be using it 'in-line' between my laptop and Mojo.

 

[wsz0304]

get it,tks

 

[rb2013]

Interesting discussion on Roon RATT  vs AES67  - anybody feel like paying $500 for their software player alone?  Or $120 a yr for life - per machine?
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/806827/audio-over-ip-the-coming-wave-the-aes67-and-avb-ethernet-protocols-usher-in-a-new-age-of-computer-audio/45
 
OP proposed this closed system as better then the open player choice DANTE or Ravenna - AOIP solution.
 
From http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2015/06/roon-review-part-1-walking-on-the/
 

Users observing Roon pricing against the backdrop of software like Amarra and J Play might baulk at its US$119 annual fee but remember, it’s not just a software player in the traditional sense. A lifetime membership is available for the one-time hit of US$499. If wish to dip your toe in the water before commiting you have to on the ball. A 14-day trial is available but not until you’ve forked over your credit card details. If you don’t opt-out within those 14 days your card gets charged for the first. Annoyingly, opt-out must be done via email. I suspect we’ll soon see some changes to the way Roon Labs handles its financial side.​

 

 
Really you have to be kidding me?  $500 for a software player - that's almost what I paid for the REDNET 3...delusional.
 
Even JRiver MediaCenter is only $49 for a lifetime license.
 
I have a $120 Asus 10inch tablet that I cruz the internet when not reading a book, when listening in my main room.  Do I need to pay $120/mth to have liner notes - if I want to read about an artist I just look them up on Wiki - way more links and information then Roon meta data.  Plus I can read Headfi instead (which I mostly do), or 6Moons, or DAR, or Tone, or Stereophile, or Computer Audiophile, or...you get the idea.
 
I predict this Roon -RATT going the way of Squeezebox, Sooloos, etc...

 

[Gordian]

$499 for online data is completely insane, can't agree more

 

[Superdad]

Sorry Alex you are wrong.  I never said that multiple chip configuration could not exceed 96k, just that my DAC60 could not.

Don't put words in my mouth.  That is pretend to correct something I never said.

The PCM1704 in a single chip per channel configuration is limited to 24 bit 96kHz.  Now like any DAC chip it can be configured into multi-chip higher data rate.  But that is a completely different implementation.

Sorry Rob, but you are quite incorrect! My single PCM1704K (per channel) DAC has no trouble running at 384Khz, and with a proper USB>I2S board I'd run it at 768Khz. Multi-chip configurations do nothing for increasing sample rate capability.

 

[ginetto61]

No none of these are needed just the existing rj45 ethernet port on your PC (where you connect to the internet).

 
Hi and thanks again !
So what is really needed is a bridge unit from rj45 to spdif.
Something like this one
 
https://us.focusrite.com/ethernet-audio-interfaces/rednet-6
 
what is MADI ? is spdif compatible maybe ?
argh ...  2100 USD ...
 
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RedNet6
 
After some listening i have changed my mind.  I am sure i could live perfectly well also with coax spdif.
I am not very much in high rez or dsd.
i will wait for a medium price interface.
Thanks a lot again
Have a nice day,   gino

 

[rw35]

 
Really you have to be kidding me?  $500 for a software player - that's almost what I paid for the REDNET 3...delusional.
 
Even JRiver MediaCenter is only $49 for a lifetime license.
 
I have a $120 Asus 10inch tablet that I cruz the internet when not reading a book, when listening in my main room.  Do I need to pay $120/mth to have liner notes - if I want to read about an artist I just look them up on Wiki - way more links and information then Roon meta data.  Plus I can read Headfi instead (which I mostly do), or 6Moons, or DAR, or Tone, or Stereophile, or Computer Audiophile, or...you get the idea.
 
I predict this Roon -RATT going the way of Squeezebox, Sooloos, etc...

 
 
The price is in cuckoo land!
 
I don't get why some people seem to obsess that all servers MUST HAVE Roon functionality to be viable.
 
Select track > add to queue > LISTEN to music (in sublime SQ)... is the only functionality I must have.