I have been using DC Blocker for some time connected to my Niagara 1000 powerstrip IEC inlet. For periods having it connected and some periods not in use. What i notice in my system when in use, the sound is sharper and cleaner but at the expense of being more sibilant with sharper ssss in vocal and to edgy at times so i can think it sound more natural with out it but more veiled. Maybe one to many veil lifted. In use my oled TV gets better picture with cleaner and sharper picture with less background noise so i am really happy with that change.
How much ampere normally a tv and headphone system used at same time could use in real world listening? Dc blocker Its rated at 7A continuous and 10A short term peaks. I hope the cause its not a matter of its resticting current to my Niagara 1000 rated at 10A.
Maybe when i start trying ifi acpurifier in my system and ncf furutech clear line that sibilant im hear gets remedied and new powercable + filtered powerstrip for router/switch side instead of the generic power strip in use now there.
Thanks for your feedback. Power components in general need a lot of time to settle in, so please let us know whether anything changes after some 200 hours of use or so. I know, this sounds a bit drastic, but often that's the nature of such accessories
From what I can tell, the cleaner a setup's power is, the lesser its edginess should be, but that is just the rough guideline. Hope this helps, thanks!
Does Supanova emit its noise cancellation signals back into the mains like AC Purifier does?
Guys who have PS Audio Powerplants - did you try Supanova and Powerplant connected to two adjacent outlet receptacles? PS Audio advises not to have any other power conditioners in the chain. I am wondering if Supanova will affect Powerplant when both are connected to an outlet with multiple receptacles.
Does Supanova emit its noise cancellation signals back into the mains like AC Purifier does?
Guys who have PS Audio Powerplants - did you try Supanova and Powerplant connected to two adjacent outlet receptacles? PS Audio advises not to have any other power conditioners in the chain. I am wondering if Supanova will affect Powerplant when both are connected to an outlet with multiple receptacles.
I have a PS Audio P20. I have never heard that PS Audio advises not to have other conditioners on the same circuit. Actually, you will improve the performance of whatever is connected to the Powerplant by connecting a noise filtering device that cleans the noise on the line, such as the Shunyata Defender.
The reason is because the Powerplants do not do a great job at filtering noise among devices connected to it. So if you plug in a noisy switch mode power supply into a Powerplant, noise from the supply will travel to other components connected to the Powerplant. This is where a Defender will reduce that noise.
Also have the IFI Supernova (with the in-line filter) connected on the same circuit (but not into the P20).
And a Shunyata Hydra on the circuit (not not into the P20). The Hydra cleans the AC that it puts back into the line, so this gives you the best of both worlds. The Powerplant gets cleaner incoming AC, which produces cleaner regenerated AC.
I have a PS Audio P20. I have never heard that PS Audio advises not to have other conditioners on the same circuit. Actually, you will improve the performance of whatever is connected to the Powerplant by connecting a noise filtering device that cleans the noise on the line, such as the Shunyata Defender.
The reason is because the Powerplants do not do a great job at filtering noise among devices connected to it. So if you plug in a noisy switch mode power supply into a Powerplant, noise from the supply will travel to other components connected to the Powerplant. This is where a Defender will reduce that noise.
Also have the IFI Supernova (with the in-line filter) connected on the same circuit (but not into the P20).
And a Shunyata Hydra on the circuit (not not into the P20). The Hydra cleans the AC that it puts back into the line, so this gives you the best of both worlds. The Powerplant gets cleaner incoming AC, which produces cleaner regenerated AC.
"Conditioners
We discourage the use of any other power conditioning equipment before or after the P20 without
considerable evaluation. A critical determination will have to be made as to whether there are any
sonic or visual shortcomings. The P20 has a significant input & output passive filter design, and
adding extra power cables to its input or additional filtering to its output may, in fact, be undesirable."
"Conditioners
We discourage the use of any other power conditioning equipment before or after the P20 without
considerable evaluation. A critical determination will have to be made as to whether there are any
sonic or visual shortcomings. The P20 has a significant input & output passive filter design, and
adding extra power cables to its input or additional filtering to its output may, in fact, be undesirable."
It seems like you read it but didn’t comprehend what they mean. Let me try to help:
they are referring to low quality conditioners that restrict current. The Shunyata products do not.
And to ”adding extra power cables to its input”
The big drawback with the Powerplants is that they do not filter noise among/between components that are connected to the outputs. This is why Shunyata (and other) products can outperform the Powerplants.
It seems like you read it but didn’t comprehend what they mean. Let me try to help:
they are referring to low quality conditioners that restrict current. The Shunyata products do not.
And to ”adding extra power cables to its input”
The big drawback with the Powerplants is that they do not filter noise among/between components that are connected to the outputs. This is why Shunyata (and other) products can outperform the Powerplants.
They discourage the use of other power conditioning equipment in conjunction with the Powerplants.
You sure can still do it and judge for yourself If you consider it an improvement.
However the manufacturer warns that it MAY be undesireable and therefore discourages the use of them
They discourage the use of other power conditioning equipment in conjunction with the Powerplants.
You sure can still do it and judge for yourself If you consider it an improvement.
However the manufacturer warns that it MAY be undesireable and therefore discourages the use of them
Using a high quality filter like the Shunyata Denali on the output side (or input) of the Powerplant will give you the best of both worlds: regenerated AC and noise elimination between components.
Why PS Audio is saying in the manual to check is because most power filters/conditioners are garbage. They restrict current and/or simply don’t work well. Shunyata, and select others, don’t do that. I have ordered a Denali and Defender and will try it out.
Back to the previous question: I don’t think the Supanova filters AC out of the unit and back into the mains; but not sure. If it does, great, it will only give the Powerplant cleaner input power. Current availability is not a concern unless you are running your Powerplant close to the max output available; otherwise the Powerplants have ample internal capacitors to provide more current than the circuit can provide.
Using a high quality filter like the Shunyata Denali on the output side (or input) of the Powerplant will give you the best of both worlds: regenerated AC and noise elimination between components.
Why PS Audio is saying in the manual to check is because most power filters/conditioners are garbage. They restrict current and/or simply don’t work well. Shunyata, and select others, don’t do that. I have ordered a Denali and Defender and will try it out.
Back to the previous question: I don’t think the Supanova filters AC out of the unit and back into the mains; but not sure. If it does, great, it will only give the Powerplant cleaner input power. Current availability is not a concern unless you are running your Powerplant close to the max output available; otherwise the Powerplants have ample internal capacitors to provide more current than the circuit can provide.
It depends on the level of one's setup. I imagine the supanova is an in-line ac purifier. It worked wonders for me before but my chain eventually scaled and it starts to hurt the sound than help. Same with the Furutech unit. So you really need to use your ears on this one.
I recently compared a furutech ncf clear line vs ifi acpurifier that i put in the middle of my Niagara 1000 power conditioner.
For me the ncf clear line was more effective with blacker background and better details with less sibilance and sharper tv picture. I thought the ifi acpurifier made me here finer details and better seperation but i could not se any picture improvements and did not lessen sibilance for me. It also maybe made the sound darker not sure yet. Need to evaluate more in the future. Back and forth with and without. Also acpurifier led indicated red red for me so no correct ground and polarity. Mine outlets is not grounded.
Thanks for the feedback and please feel free to let us know about any observations you might experience. As for aC iPurifier's LEDs, ideally they should be both green.
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