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Apr 28, 2021 at 9:30 AM Post #61 of 90,691
Campfire Solaris SE Impressions (originally posted December 2019)-- the IEM was king of the mid-range for me until the Elysium came along.

Campfire Audio Solaris SE

2019 has been a hell of a year for me in terms of portable audio. In January of this year I, like so many other plebs, started scouring places like Head Fi and r/headphones for information on which over ear bluetooth noise cancelling head set was right for me. Little did I know at the time that doing so was going to kick off a journey of epic proportions that would take me through some of the best sounding (and most expensive) IEMs on the market right now. The idea of a "journey" is a very apt metaphor for many of us in this hobby as it often comprises a transition from one place to another, often over and over again. There are many (arguably the fortunate ones) who know what they're looking for immediately and go straight for it, there are others who think they know what they want but find along the way that what satisfies them in the end is nothing like what they thought they were seeking in the beginning, and there are those still who don't really have an end destination in mind at all-- they're simply enjoying the journey. The beautiful thing in this hobby is that the selection these days is so vast that there's something out there for everyone and it need not be the same thing for any two people. For anyone who cares I've already detailed a good deal of my own journey in my earlier reviews of the Campfire Audio Solaris and the Cayin N6ii (links in my sig)-- the purpose of this post is to detail everything that's happened since, highlighted by a showdown between what are unquestionably the two top IEMs* I have had the pleasure of demoing this year, the Campfire Audio Solaris Special Edition and the QDC Anole VX. So let's get on with it then...

For a good chunk of this year (from about March to September) the OG Solaris was my bae-- it was the best "all arounder" IEM I'd heard to that point and I was more-or-less satisfied with it. Every now and again-- egged on by the sort of curiosity that plagues all of us who frequent Head Fi and other places like it, and also, if I'm honest, a desire for just a dash more impact here and there in Solaris' presentation-- I made a point of demoing all the TOTL IEMs I could to see if anything could usurp it. For a long time nothing could though many (including such heavyweights as the Z1R and u12t) tried their best. Fast forward to September of this year when I had the pleasure of a long awaited demo of the much heralded QDC Anole VX. Many people whose opinions I deeply respect (@antdroid , @McMadface , @Mrcojocaru , @koven , to name a few) had owned both the Solaris and VX and preferred the latter, so I was naturally very interested in trying it out. The opportunity arose in September at a meet in Seattle where I was able to gather with some fellow enthusiasts and demo @antdroid 's VX. The fact that it was him who exposed me to the VX first hand was a neat little "completing of the circle" relative to his own journey, but that's a story for another day. Anyway I had a good demo that day and, while it was impressive, I wasn't immediately sold. The VX is a very competent IEM but, like the Solaris, its greatest strength is that it does everything rather well and doesn't overwhelm or offend at first listen.

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Still though, the die was cast. I found in the days following my initial demo of the VX that I couldn't get its sound out of my head-- it's vividness, detail and clarity-- and after being haunted as such for a few days I took the plunge and ordered a used Anole VX of my own. Upon receiving it I did some a/b'ing back and forth and fell in love with the VX for its vivid, detailed and slightly aggressive sound and found that, despite being an all BA monitor it did what no other IEM up to that point had been able to do-- usurped the Solaris. Not much changed in the following weeks in my love of the VX-- it's a fantastic IEM The biggest complaint I would lobby at it, apart from a dash of the BA timbre (though it does bass very well imho) is that it's a little TOO aggressive in certain regions of the highs-- to the point that certain instruments sound, not quite "tizzy" or "sibilant" but a little too energetic and not quite natural. I noticed this especially with piano in some of Vince Guaraldi's works. It could be a dash fatiguing after a while, but not to the point where I could actively complain about it. Furthermore, if I'm being honest, there were certain elements of Solaris' presentation that I missed very much, namely it's more holographic presentation, instrument separation, natural instrumental timbre and, of course, the DD bass. Taking all that into account, along with my love of Campfire Audio's whole mode of presentation, philosophy and ethos, when @KB announced the SE Solaris in November I was unable to resist and pre-ordered from Travis at Headphone Bar almost immediately.

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The five or so weeks between my pre-order of the Solaris SE and its arrival into my hands were some of the longest of my audiophile career (I hate the wait for new gear in the mail) but suffice to say the wait was worth it and the moment I got the package in my hands was one of the greatest in my short time in this hobby. The unboxing experience was wonderful. As I've said I love CFA's whole mode of presentation-- minimalist, beautiful, memorable, effective. It was a very different experience from the needless bulk of the VX or the ostentatious and borderline obnoxious packaging of the Z1R. Furthermore the build quality is superb (as I've come to expect from CFA) and the IEMs themselves are beyond beautiful, especially when paired with ALO's own smoky litz cable (which I picked up from Headphone Bar along with the Solaris). All of this said, build quality and packaging mean nothing if the sound quality isn't up to par.

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So how is the sound? There is no other way to put it-- the SE Solaris sounds simply divine. In my estimation Campfire Audio has knocked it out of the park-- this is the best sounding IEM I have heard this year. I should state again at the outset that, as I have indicated in previous posts, I have not had the chance yet to a/b the SE Solaris vs. the OG directly so anything I state in that regard will be from memory. All of that said, the most prominent improvement according to my memory is with the mid-range in general and with the presentation of vocals in particular. Vocals sound more robust, bodied and forward. Mark Knopfler, Morrissey and Michael Jackson all sound like they're in the room with me singing into my ear. One common complaint of the OG Solaris was that there was a touch of "hollowness" in certain regions of the mids, most apparent on vocals-- from what I can tell that has been totally remedied in the Solaris SE. The second most prominent difference I notice (relative to my own memory) is that the bass, while not being increased in quantity, sounds cleaner and more detailed. Thirdly I would say that the SE Solaris has more air and sparkle than the OG. At the time it was released I (among others) described the OG Solaris as "Andro plus bass" however many lovers of the Andro objected to that characterization claiming that the Solaris lacked the air and sparkle up top that characterized the Andro. I would be very much curious to hear some of those people's impressions of the SE Solaris. Beyond that I feel confident in saying that the SE Solaris is, above all, a refinement of the sound of the original as all the defining characteristics are there-- a dynamic but disciplined and non intrusive low end, peerless instrument separation, natural instrumental timbre, holographic 3-d soundstage, and so on. The biggest revelation for me is that I no longer find myself craving more "impact" in the low end as I'm too afraid it would interfere with the "wholeness" of the picture presented. This is arguably the biggest triumph of the Solaris in general in my estimation, something that SE Solaris just refines a wee bit.

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So what of the VX? The Anole VX is a top tier IEM, make no mistake, and if I'm honest it probably still edges the Solaris in terms of raw detail, vividness and resolution. I hate to say it as sometimes such terms make me barf, but a big difference between the two is that the VX is more analytical and the Solaris SE is more musical, or emotional. How would I quantify that? I'm not sure that I could except to say that when I'm listening to the VX I often pause and marvel at all the nuance and detail of what's being presented to me. On the other hand, with the same track, the Solaris, while being no slouch in the detail department, sways me with the "whole picture". I'm more likely to stop what I'm doing in the mall and start dancing when I'm listening to the Solaris or lose myself in the airy holographic presentation. Fundamentally the SE Solaris, like the OG, is a bit of a "gestalt" that is to say a "whole is greater than the sum of its parts" IEM-- it's hard to point to one single element of the sound, rather it presents a cohesive, balanced, detailed, natural sounding and musical picture that, in its entirety, has not been equaled in any other in-ears I have tried. Another key difference between the VX and Solaris SE is in their stage. With the VX the best analogy I can think of right now is of a multi-decker sandwich in front of you-- it's easy to get lost in the nuance of all the details and all the layers-- it's a very deep stage but not as expansive on the left and right. With the Solaris on the other hand-- and just now as I am writing this has it finally occurred to me why "Solaris" may be the perfect name for this IEM-- it feels like you're at the centre of a vast stellar system grounded by the power of the low end. Unlike with the VX where the detail unfolds before me, with Solaris it's all around me in three dimensional glory. Another strength of the Solaris over the VX (for me) is in the naturalness of its timbre-- sometimes, especially with pianos, the VX sounds very "hyper real", as though you've turned the intensity up just a little too high (to borrow someone else's metaphor). Ultimately it boils down to personal preference, and for many the SE Solaris will be at most a side-grade from the VX, but for me it's a definite upgrade. Nicely done.

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Edit: A/B with OG Solaris
I managed to stop by Headphone Bar yesterday and got in a quick a/b with OG Solaris. Hearing OG Solaris for the first time in 3 months after having SE Solaris for over a week was interesting. It's true that the differences are not night and day-- SE Solaris is definitely still Solaris...which imho is a good thing as for those of us who love it there isn't much that needed changing. The differences are subtle and more-or-less in line with what I wrote in my original impressions. The most notable improvement imho is in clarity, separation and a greater sense of space-- everything seems to have a little more space to breath and as such more space for detail to become evident. This, to me, is a thing I think Solaris does better than any IEM I've heard: it generates a sense of space and separation...you really feel like you're floating at the centre of a vast and well defined soundscape. Couple this with the dynamic bass and it's pure win for me. Vocals, particularly male vocals (as that's what I listen to and am more familiar with) definitely feel more bodied and forward in the mix. There also seems to be a dash more shimmer up top and the bass is cleaner. I never would have described the bass in OG Solaris as "muddy" or "hazy", but relative to SE it feels just slightly so. All in all it's precisely what it was advertised as-- still a Solaris with some subtle refinements to the sound. It might not sound like a lot, or jump out at you at first listen, but as you spend more time with it the refinements become more evident-- they were enough to push the SE Solaris above the Anole VX for me as my top IEM of 2019.



*Usual caveat that audio is a fundamentally subjective hobby and blah blah blah everything I state in absolute terms needs to have the addendum "relative to my own tastes and preferences" attached to it.
 
Apr 29, 2021 at 9:24 AM Post #62 of 90,691
Your impressions on the U12t is my exact thoughts on the Blessing 2 Dusk when I had it.

I have the Dusk on hand now. Beyond having a hard time wrapping my head around what a $300 IEM should sound like given that all my experience the last 3 years has been at the kilobuck level I'm finding that it has a very aggressive Eastern or "Chifi" tuning. The it comprises some people's idea of "neutral" says a lot and goes a long way to explaining why I have such a hard time relating to many people's impressions of certain IEMs.
 
Apr 29, 2021 at 9:42 AM Post #63 of 90,691
No I'm not. I'm quite drawn to many aspects of Asian culture (food, history, spirituality) but biologically I'm about as white as they come (English/German ancestry). I found that bit in the advertising for the MEST MKii where it claimed it was tuned for "western audiophiles" rather interesting and it was ultimately what caused me to take a chance and buy a pair. I found it interesting because I think there is really something to this "eastern" vs. "western" tuning thing (I wrote about this in my Dorado 2020 review). Much Western "popular" music as a rule has its DNA in the mid-bass/lower mids whereas much Eastern popular music has its DNA in the upper mids/lower treble. I've noticed this a lot in different Asian brands' tuning of their IEMs-- I wouldn't call it a flaw so much as good business practice as a significant portion of the portable audio market is Asian so it makes sense that the tuning of many/most IEMs out there reflects this. Ultimately when I had to choose between the IER Z1R and Solaris as my "only IEM" it was (at root) the Solaris' tendency towards the "Western" side of the spectrum (read: lower mid/mid-bass emphasis) that won the day for me over the Z1R, despite the latter's sub-bass emphasis. In fact it was this, coupled with numerous characters on Discord who loved to tell me how much better the Z1R was than the Solaris because of how much better the former rendered their J-Pop and K-Pop, that ultimately woke me up to this phenomenon.

All of this said the OG MEST was not one of the IEMs I noted as having tuning "skewed to the East" so I was curious to know what UM's conception of a "Western Audiophile" was. What I noticed with the MKii MEST was not a tweak in the tuning so much as everything I perceived as being really special about the OG (it's vivid and fathomless staging, as well as a magnificent bass response) being removed. The MKii is still a pleasant, balanced and engaging IEM but unfortunately it comes well short of any of Campfire's IEMs in terms of natural timbre and engagement and lacking of the pizazz of the original to compensate for this I did not see a place for it in my collection. YMMV etc.




Incidentally I'm presently in talks with @1TrickPony to do a two week trade with our respective VE IEMs. The upshot of this is that I will get fresh impressions of the VE8 and from the M8 to boot. Thus far the n6ii + E02 is the only setup on which I've heard the VE8. The E02 tended to exaggerate sibilance, which was my only problem with the VE8 and the reason it "fell in my rankings" a bit. All of that said there is a lot of hair splitting and "flavor of the moment" in my top 10. In some ways it's like an olympic race where the winner only wins by a fraction of a second. For example the VX is very low on that list but it's still one of my all time fave IEMs and one I absolutely love...so an IEM's presence on that list at all is a token of the fact that I love it. The VE8 is to me in some sense an inverse of the Andromeda 2020-- both are very musical and emotionnally evocative IEMs...the VE8 just sacrifices a bit of the air and sparkle of the Andromeda for a warmer more organic sound. Choose your poison.

@8481 that is a very nice track. My initial impression is that you'd be happy with Dorado's presentation of that song however I'm going to run it through Elysium (my reference) and back before I make any detailed observations.
Congrats on the highly successful new thread. You know you've made it when you can start your own thread and lots of people post to it. It's only a matter of time before you get to 100 pages.
 
Apr 29, 2021 at 9:43 AM Post #64 of 90,691
I have the Dusk on hand now. Beyond having a hard time wrapping my head around what a $300 IEM should sound like given that all my experience the last 3 years has been at the kilobuck level I'm finding that it has a very aggressive Eastern or "Chifi" tuning. The it comprises some people's idea of "neutral" says a lot and goes a long way to explaining why I have such a hard time relating to many people's impressions of certain IEMs.
The Dusk, to my ears somehow sucked all the emotions out of music. Very thin midrange, shouty vocals and very unnatural treble timbre. The bass was decent but didn't go at all with the rest. It was the first IEM I bought and after 2 mins I knew it wasn't for me.
 
Apr 29, 2021 at 9:43 AM Post #65 of 90,691
Congrats on the highly successful new thread. You know you've made it when you can start your own thread and lots of people post to it. It's only a matter of time before you get to 100 pages.

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not but thanks :p
 
Apr 29, 2021 at 9:45 AM Post #66 of 90,691
I have the Dusk on hand now. Beyond having a hard time wrapping my head around what a $300 IEM should sound like given that all my experience the last 3 years has been at the kilobuck level I'm finding that it has a very aggressive Eastern or "Chifi" tuning. The it comprises some people's idea of "neutral" says a lot and goes a long way to explaining why I have such a hard time relating to many people's impressions of certain IEMs.
Apart from Sony, I've never really gelled with Eastern/Chifi tuning. It's so important to recognise the type of music any reviewer listens to. If there is any k-pop/j-pop in a reviewers list, I take their view with a pinch of salt.
 
Apr 29, 2021 at 9:46 AM Post #67 of 90,691
Apr 29, 2021 at 9:51 AM Post #68 of 90,691
The Dusk, to my ears somehow sucked all the emotions out of music. Very thin midrange, shouty vocals and very unnatural treble timbre. The bass was decent but didn't go at all with the rest. It was the first IEM I bought and after 2 mins I knew it wasn't for me.

Defo with you on the shouty vocals and treble...that's kind of what I mean by "Chifi tuning". Bad Moon Rising by CCR or Peaches En Regalia by Zappa on the Dusk sounded shouty, harsh and fatiguing...and there is very little mid bass/lower mid presence at all. I have this IEM on loan but don't really feel qualified to review/comment on it objectively as it's abundantly clear that it's tuned for music and tastes dramatically different from my own.

Apart from Sony, I've never really gelled with Eastern/Chifi tuning. It's so important to recognise the type of music any reviewer listens to. If there is any k-pop/j-pop in a reviewers list, I take their view with a pinch of salt.

Absolutely. I recognized in my recent experience with the Z1R that it's decidedly colored in the "Eastern" direction. Fortunately Sony, as a global company, is saavy enough that their tuning is sufficiently versatile that most people should be fine with it and only those with very particular tastes (like most of us who post on these forums) should really be able to nit pick it.
 
Apr 29, 2021 at 9:58 AM Post #69 of 90,691
Defo with you on the shouty vocals and treble...that's kind of what I mean by "Chifi tuning". Bad Moon Rising by CCR or Peaches En Regalia by Zappa on the Dusk sounded shouty, harsh and fatiguing...and there is very little mid bass/lower mid presence at all. I have this IEM on loan but don't really feel qualified to review/comment on it objectively as it's abundantly clear that it's tuned for music and tastes dramatically different from my own.



Absolutely. I recognized in my recent experience with the Z1R that it's decidedly colored in the "Eastern" direction. Fortunately Sony, as a global company, is saavy enough that their tuning is sufficiently versatile that most people should be fine with it and only those with very particular tastes (like most of us who post on these forums) should really be able to nit pick it.

Lol. Talk about emotionally disengaging. I was actually baffled by the praises the Blessing 2's praises and thought it was mediocre compared to other sub 1k midfi sets.

Vocals had no real body to them, instead all I heard was somewhat forced frequencies with very decent imaging, akin to an italicized font. Works wonders for distinguishing individual voices in a choir, but falls apart the moment the music highlights a vocal solo. Plus there's almost no ambient extension (on the blessing 2).
 
Apr 29, 2021 at 10:58 AM Post #70 of 90,691
Lol. Talk about emotionally disengaging. I was actually baffled by the praises the Blessing 2's praises and thought it was mediocre compared to other sub 1k midfi sets.

Vocals had no real body to them, instead all I heard was somewhat forced frequencies with very decent imaging, akin to an italicized font. Works wonders for distinguishing individual voices in a choir, but falls apart the moment the music highlights a vocal solo. Plus there's almost no ambient extension (on the blessing 2).

I've been baffled a lot by the praises directed at certain IEMs coming from some quarters...it's why I try to get the bottom of what motivates and differentiates different people's tastes. So far a division based on "Eastern" and "Western" tuning-- defined largely by sub-bass vs. mid-bass emphasis and upper mid vs. lower mid emphasis-- seems the most fruitful. I knew the Dusk wasn't really going to be my thing based on impressions I've read from others but I was really curious to hear it as I once had a reviewer non-ironically suggest it to me as a "proper" bass oriented IEM as opposed to the Dorado which he summarily trashed...a sentiment that, now that I've heard the Dusk, seems wholly misguided.
 
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Apr 29, 2021 at 11:12 AM Post #71 of 90,691
I've been baffled a lot by the praises directed at certain IEMs coming from some quarters...it's why I try to get the bottom of what motivates and differentiates different people's tastes. So far a division based on "Eastern" and "Western" tuning-- defined largely by sub-bass vs. mid-bass emphasis and upper mid vs. lower mid emphasis-- seems the most fruitful. I knew the Dusk wasn't really going to be my thing based on impressions I've read from others but I was really curious to hear it as I once had a reviewer non-ironically suggest it to me as a "proper" bass oriented IEM as opposed to the Dorado which he summarily trashed...a sentiment that, now that I've heard it, seems wholly misguided.

Totally agree with your comments here - reviews and reviewers need to come with a health warning :wink:
 
Apr 29, 2021 at 11:16 AM Post #72 of 90,691
Campfire Solaris SE Impressions (originally posted December 2019)-- the IEM was king of the mid-range for me until the Elysium came along.

Campfire Audio Solaris SE

2019 has been a hell of a year for me in terms of portable audio. In January of this year I, like so many other plebs, started scouring places like Head Fi and r/headphones for information on which over ear bluetooth noise cancelling head set was right for me. Little did I know at the time that doing so was going to kick off a journey of epic proportions that would take me through some of the best sounding (and most expensive) IEMs on the market right now. The idea of a "journey" is a very apt metaphor for many of us in this hobby as it often comprises a transition from one place to another, often over and over again. There are many (arguably the fortunate ones) who know what they're looking for immediately and go straight for it, there are others who think they know what they want but find along the way that what satisfies them in the end is nothing like what they thought they were seeking in the beginning, and there are those still who don't really have an end destination in mind at all-- they're simply enjoying the journey. The beautiful thing in this hobby is that the selection these days is so vast that there's something out there for everyone and it need not be the same thing for any two people. For anyone who cares I've already detailed a good deal of my own journey in my earlier reviews of the Campfire Audio Solaris and the Cayin N6ii (links in my sig)-- the purpose of this post is to detail everything that's happened since, highlighted by a showdown between what are unquestionably the two top IEMs* I have had the pleasure of demoing this year, the Campfire Audio Solaris Special Edition and the QDC Anole VX. So let's get on with it then...

For a good chunk of this year (from about March to September) the OG Solaris was my bae-- it was the best "all arounder" IEM I'd heard to that point and I was more-or-less satisfied with it. Every now and again-- egged on by the sort of curiosity that plagues all of us who frequent Head Fi and other places like it, and also, if I'm honest, a desire for just a dash more impact here and there in Solaris' presentation-- I made a point of demoing all the TOTL IEMs I could to see if anything could usurp it. For a long time nothing could though many (including such heavyweights as the Z1R and u12t) tried their best. Fast forward to September of this year when I had the pleasure of a long awaited demo of the much heralded QDC Anole VX. Many people whose opinions I deeply respect (@antdroid , @McMadface , @Mrcojocaru , @koven , to name a few) had owned both the Solaris and VX and preferred the latter, so I was naturally very interested in trying it out. The opportunity arose in September at a meet in Seattle where I was able to gather with some fellow enthusiasts and demo @antdroid 's VX. The fact that it was him who exposed me to the VX first hand was a neat little "completing of the circle" relative to his own journey, but that's a story for another day. Anyway I had a good demo that day and, while it was impressive, I wasn't immediately sold. The VX is a very competent IEM but, like the Solaris, its greatest strength is that it does everything rather well and doesn't overwhelm or offend at first listen.

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Still though, the die was cast. I found in the days following my initial demo of the VX that I couldn't get its sound out of my head-- it's vividness, detail and clarity-- and after being haunted as such for a few days I took the plunge and ordered a used Anole VX of my own. Upon receiving it I did some a/b'ing back and forth and fell in love with the VX for its vivid, detailed and slightly aggressive sound and found that, despite being an all BA monitor it did what no other IEM up to that point had been able to do-- usurped the Solaris. Not much changed in the following weeks in my love of the VX-- it's a fantastic IEM The biggest complaint I would lobby at it, apart from a dash of the BA timbre (though it does bass very well imho) is that it's a little TOO aggressive in certain regions of the highs-- to the point that certain instruments sound, not quite "tizzy" or "sibilant" but a little too energetic and not quite natural. I noticed this especially with piano in some of Vince Guaraldi's works. It could be a dash fatiguing after a while, but not to the point where I could actively complain about it. Furthermore, if I'm being honest, there were certain elements of Solaris' presentation that I missed very much, namely it's more holographic presentation, instrument separation, natural instrumental timbre and, of course, the DD bass. Taking all that into account, along with my love of Campfire Audio's whole mode of presentation, philosophy and ethos, when @KB announced the SE Solaris in November I was unable to resist and pre-ordered from Travis at Headphone Bar almost immediately.

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The five or so weeks between my pre-order of the Solaris SE and its arrival into my hands were some of the longest of my audiophile career (I hate the wait for new gear in the mail) but suffice to say the wait was worth it and the moment I got the package in my hands was one of the greatest in my short time in this hobby. The unboxing experience was wonderful. As I've said I love CFA's whole mode of presentation-- minimalist, beautiful, memorable, effective. It was a very different experience from the needless bulk of the VX or the ostentatious and borderline obnoxious packaging of the Z1R. Furthermore the build quality is superb (as I've come to expect from CFA) and the IEMs themselves are beyond beautiful, especially when paired with ALO's own smoky litz cable (which I picked up from Headphone Bar along with the Solaris). All of this said, build quality and packaging mean nothing if the sound quality isn't up to par.

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So how is the sound? There is no other way to put it-- the SE Solaris sounds simply divine. In my estimation Campfire Audio has knocked it out of the park-- this is the best sounding IEM I have heard this year. I should state again at the outset that, as I have indicated in previous posts, I have not had the chance yet to a/b the SE Solaris vs. the OG directly so anything I state in that regard will be from memory. All of that said, the most prominent improvement according to my memory is with the mid-range in general and with the presentation of vocals in particular. Vocals sound more robust, bodied and forward. Mark Knopfler, Morrissey and Michael Jackson all sound like they're in the room with me singing into my ear. One common complaint of the OG Solaris was that there was a touch of "hollowness" in certain regions of the mids, most apparent on vocals-- from what I can tell that has been totally remedied in the Solaris SE. The second most prominent difference I notice (relative to my own memory) is that the bass, while not being increased in quantity, sounds cleaner and more detailed. Thirdly I would say that the SE Solaris has more air and sparkle than the OG. At the time it was released I (among others) described the OG Solaris as "Andro plus bass" however many lovers of the Andro objected to that characterization claiming that the Solaris lacked the air and sparkle up top that characterized the Andro. I would be very much curious to hear some of those people's impressions of the SE Solaris. Beyond that I feel confident in saying that the SE Solaris is, above all, a refinement of the sound of the original as all the defining characteristics are there-- a dynamic but disciplined and non intrusive low end, peerless instrument separation, natural instrumental timbre, holographic 3-d soundstage, and so on. The biggest revelation for me is that I no longer find myself craving more "impact" in the low end as I'm too afraid it would interfere with the "wholeness" of the picture presented. This is arguably the biggest triumph of the Solaris in general in my estimation, something that SE Solaris just refines a wee bit.

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So what of the VX? The Anole VX is a top tier IEM, make no mistake, and if I'm honest it probably still edges the Solaris in terms of raw detail, vividness and resolution. I hate to say it as sometimes such terms make me barf, but a big difference between the two is that the VX is more analytical and the Solaris SE is more musical, or emotional. How would I quantify that? I'm not sure that I could except to say that when I'm listening to the VX I often pause and marvel at all the nuance and detail of what's being presented to me. On the other hand, with the same track, the Solaris, while being no slouch in the detail department, sways me with the "whole picture". I'm more likely to stop what I'm doing in the mall and start dancing when I'm listening to the Solaris or lose myself in the airy holographic presentation. Fundamentally the SE Solaris, like the OG, is a bit of a "gestalt" that is to say a "whole is greater than the sum of its parts" IEM-- it's hard to point to one single element of the sound, rather it presents a cohesive, balanced, detailed, natural sounding and musical picture that, in its entirety, has not been equaled in any other in-ears I have tried. Another key difference between the VX and Solaris SE is in their stage. With the VX the best analogy I can think of right now is of a multi-decker sandwich in front of you-- it's easy to get lost in the nuance of all the details and all the layers-- it's a very deep stage but not as expansive on the left and right. With the Solaris on the other hand-- and just now as I am writing this has it finally occurred to me why "Solaris" may be the perfect name for this IEM-- it feels like you're at the centre of a vast stellar system grounded by the power of the low end. Unlike with the VX where the detail unfolds before me, with Solaris it's all around me in three dimensional glory. Another strength of the Solaris over the VX (for me) is in the naturalness of its timbre-- sometimes, especially with pianos, the VX sounds very "hyper real", as though you've turned the intensity up just a little too high (to borrow someone else's metaphor). Ultimately it boils down to personal preference, and for many the SE Solaris will be at most a side-grade from the VX, but for me it's a definite upgrade. Nicely done.

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Edit: A/B with OG Solaris
I managed to stop by Headphone Bar yesterday and got in a quick a/b with OG Solaris. Hearing OG Solaris for the first time in 3 months after having SE Solaris for over a week was interesting. It's true that the differences are not night and day-- SE Solaris is definitely still Solaris...which imho is a good thing as for those of us who love it there isn't much that needed changing. The differences are subtle and more-or-less in line with what I wrote in my original impressions. The most notable improvement imho is in clarity, separation and a greater sense of space-- everything seems to have a little more space to breath and as such more space for detail to become evident. This, to me, is a thing I think Solaris does better than any IEM I've heard: it generates a sense of space and separation...you really feel like you're floating at the centre of a vast and well defined soundscape. Couple this with the dynamic bass and it's pure win for me. Vocals, particularly male vocals (as that's what I listen to and am more familiar with) definitely feel more bodied and forward in the mix. There also seems to be a dash more shimmer up top and the bass is cleaner. I never would have described the bass in OG Solaris as "muddy" or "hazy", but relative to SE it feels just slightly so. All in all it's precisely what it was advertised as-- still a Solaris with some subtle refinements to the sound. It might not sound like a lot, or jump out at you at first listen, but as you spend more time with it the refinements become more evident-- they were enough to push the SE Solaris above the Anole VX for me as my top IEM of 2019.



*Usual caveat that audio is a fundamentally subjective hobby and blah blah blah everything I state in absolute terms needs to have the addendum "relative to my own tastes and preferences" attached to it.
I think the Solaris SE may be the most beautiful IEM in the world.
 
Apr 29, 2021 at 11:22 AM Post #73 of 90,691
I think the Solaris SE may be the most beautiful IEM in the world.

It has its moments...the way they did the faceplates was too inconsistent around how hey looked-- some were beautiful, others had that sort of Frankenstein patched together aesthetic. I found the abalone on the Nio quite striking too. All of that said the MW10 Andromeda gets my vote for most beautiful IEM I've owned. It just so happens that blue/gold is my favorite color aesthetic. These were so nice that I didn't even like taking them out of my house for fear I'd damage or chip the paint.

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Apr 29, 2021 at 11:41 AM Post #74 of 90,691
I've been baffled a lot by the praises directed at certain IEMs coming from some quarters...it's why I try to get the bottom of what motivates and differentiates different people's tastes. So far a division based on "Eastern" and "Western" tuning-- defined largely by sub-bass vs. mid-bass emphasis and upper mid vs. lower mid emphasis-- seems the most fruitful. I knew the Dusk wasn't really going to be my thing based on impressions I've read from others but I was really curious to hear it as I once had a reviewer non-ironically suggest it to me as a "proper" bass oriented IEM as opposed to the Dorado which he summarily trashed...a sentiment that, now that I've heard the Dusk, seems wholly misguided.
I think this is true. I love the tuning of the Dusks. Conversely, I am afraid to listen to the Dorado for fear of the tuning observation you made.
 
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Apr 29, 2021 at 11:58 AM Post #75 of 90,691
I think this is true. I love the tuning of the Dusks. Conversely, I am afraid to listen to the Dorado for fear of the tuning observation you made.

Fair enough-- I find the Dusk just as colored in the upper mids/lower treble as the Dorado is in the lower mids/mid bass. Choose your poison.
 

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