Unveiled: Meet the HD 620S
May 8, 2024 at 2:55 PM Post #63 of 300
Sweet!
Guess we have to wait for balanced one.
Though it should be default wired from the first release.
Anyway, glad it has that option, not like certain neighbour brand who always go SE and never gives an option for balanced one.
I might not have been clear, sorry: the HD 620S is ready for balanced. The balanced cable is what will be offered in the summer.
 
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May 8, 2024 at 3:02 PM Post #65 of 300
Looks like an HD600 with bass and vocals boosted based on the FR graph. Would be fun to listen to.
The stereo presentation is different as well. Much, much wider....especially for instruments. If you love hearing what the mix engineer did to make the stereo mix interesting, this is THE closed can for it.
You can buy 3rd party balanced cables for the 560S right now and they should all work with the 620S.
Correct.
 
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May 8, 2024 at 3:31 PM Post #67 of 300
It's wired for balanced and we'll have a factory balanced option this summer.

Yikes!
I'm personally glad we have companies like Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic, etc. that continue making good quality headphones without the exorbitant prices. Prices have gotten crazy over the past 12 years I've been on this website. Another factor people seem to be overlooking is the bar for sound quality to the average consumer has been raised dramatically over the years. Headphones such as the HD 6xx/5xx series and the DT series are far more commonly accessible now, I see them everywhere now on youtube, twitch, etc. especially among the streaming, tech, and gaming communities. And the Apple AirPod Pro and Pro Max have also helped raise the bar a lot for the average consumer. Audiophile-level headphones have simply gotten much more mainstream. At the same time the boutique headphone market has grown a lot especially within the established audiophile community.
 
May 8, 2024 at 3:32 PM Post #68 of 300
Wow two Europe audio brands release closed back headphone at the same time. Interesting
Big day for new product launches. Don't forget new iPads, Pixel phones, portable speakers, etc etc
 
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May 8, 2024 at 4:42 PM Post #70 of 300
Part 2: you're hearing the graph with your eyes instead of hearing the headphone with your ears. We just hope you get to try it with your own ears so you can decide if its for you. We think this one is special, and over the coming weeks and months the community will help us color that picture. Are you coming to any CanJams? Would love to give you a demo of it.
I promise I’m not trying to just be another obstinate and unreasonable Head-Fier making your job harder, but considering this was measured on a GRAS rig with a flat ear and cheek sim, I’ve every reason to believe that the on-head behavior would be similar in the 200-400Hz region I’d mentioned (if not worse due to heads leaking more than rigs).

Of course, said feature being there and people noticing it are two different things; certainly some listeners may not notice it (even if it is there), but unfortunately I would likely notice it as this dip has been a deal breaker 90% of the time in my years-long search for a decent closed back.

The fact is: if you know how to read the measurements and know what to ignore in terms of how relevant a feature will be to your experience (< 200 Hz, > 3 kHz should be almost entirely ignored) you can know pretty well when something won’t work for you… and HD 620S probably won’t work for me.

Regardless, thanks for the answer Eric. I’ll of course be trying HD 620S at my earliest availability. Hopefully I see you at a CanJam one of these days. Cheers.
 
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May 8, 2024 at 4:58 PM Post #71 of 300
From previous posts, I understand that the 500 series chassis has been selected for better control of tightness of assembly, but 600 series has the advantage of the entire headband being easily replaceable without having to solder anything.
Is at least the headband padding on the HD 620S going to be easily user-replaceable, if not the headband itself?
 
May 8, 2024 at 5:30 PM Post #72 of 300
I think I speak for everyone when I say I hope a reviewer with an RU7 gets a review unit! :ksc75smile:
 
May 8, 2024 at 7:18 PM Post #73 of 300
I predict they will be a smash. The 600 is -5 db at 30 Hz and the 620 is +6 db at 30 Hz. When a poster says that they will finally have decent bass, it's an example of the desire of the market for "fun tuning".

As I wrote in the defunct thread I'd like a less smoothed FR for these, and distortion measurements in the bass - say at 100 and at 30 Hz - the distortion given at 1KHz doesn't really say much. Will have to wait for the reviewers that don't actually sell them to get that sort of info.

Also do not know why the thread in the Headphone thread is closed - lots of stuff on there - like the new Stax - that's not released.
 
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May 8, 2024 at 7:27 PM Post #74 of 300
I predict they will be a smash. The 600 is -5 db at 30 Hz and the 620 is +6 db at 30 Hz. When a poster says that they will finally have decent bass, it's an example of the desire of the market for "fun tuning".

As I wrote in the defunct thread I'd like a less smoothed FR for these, and distortion measurements in the bass - say at 100 and at 30 Hz - the distortion given at 1KHz doesn't really say much. Will have to wait for the reviewers that don't actually sell them to get that sort of info.
If someone would do the science behind the culture. Like Beats are awful, even the new ones but when we are told by our peers they are great we assume we are listening to greatness and believe we are indeed the bomb so to speak-all while the company making the awful headphones know they are awful but spend billions on marketing awful.

The opposite of that is the same. However on that end of the spectrum we have aristrocsts and people who will chase the forever goal of the endgame.

Now we are getting in people like me out there. We like lows, miss, and clear highs. We will listen to old rap (new raps is to whacked), country, opera, rock, acoustic, and much more instead of the usual 20 songs to test our equipment.

Once we see an avenue we like we will spend the money on the gear and tweak it. Now instead of chasing the rabbit all the time we can have a good foundation and overtime get new headphones instead of endless ess and akm dacs… all while on the opposite spectrum they spend money on garbage Best Buy headphones that only have horrible sound and horrible bass.

:)
 
May 8, 2024 at 7:40 PM Post #75 of 300
If someone would do the science behind the culture. Like Beats are awful, even the new ones but when we are told by our peers they are great we assume we are listening to greatness and believe we are indeed the bomb so to speak-all while the company making the awful headphones know they are awful but spend billions on marketing awful.
In my earlier years Bose 901/501/301's were my example of that - even more so that I worked at "the Mountain" in the Summer of '78 and saw for myself the rigorous -ahem- QC that the 901 II had, and put them up against ADS 710, 810; KLH-5, AR-3; Magnepan MG-1 and II, DQ-10's etc - heck even the Dynaco A-25 killed them - except for the midbass volume....
The opposite of that is the same. However on that end of the spectrum we have aristrocsts and people who will chase the forever goal of the endgame.

Now we are getting in people like me out there. We like lows, miss, and clear highs. We will listen to old rap (new raps is to whacked), country, opera, rock, acoustic, and much more instead of the usual 20 songs to test our equipment.

Once we see an avenue we like we will spend the money on the gear and tweak it. Now instead of chasing the rabbit all the time we can have a good foundation and overtime get new headphones instead of endless ess and akm dacs… all while on the opposite spectrum they spend money on garbage Best Buy headphones that only have horrible sound and horrible bass.

:)
Yeah the old accuracy thing is an ever decreasing niche. I myself however would be more interested in the 620 if it was flat at 30 Hz. - and if it had the same accuracy of timbre of the 600, I'd buy it for sure. We'll see, but I do see nice sales for them as I said. Hopefully if they aren't great at least the money will fund other projects that might well be excellent.
 
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