Reviews by peter1480

peter1480

500+ Head-Fier
Pros: Good looking
Very good build quality
Clean smooth sound
Cons: Bit bas heavy with some music
Sound stage not quite as wide as with the classics
Limited re cable options
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Thank you to Meze for the loan of these headphones.


My ears are 55 years old and so not perfect, I listen to a combination of high res files on portable daps and a high end home system.


I am a Maze Classic owner and was intrigued to see what this cheaper variant had to offer. Comfort is very good and the ear pads are just the right density to give a good fit but keep your ears at the right distance from the speaker. As with all closed back phones your ears will get hot after prolonged use. Isolation is quite good bit loud outside noise can be heard over quite music, there is very little sound leakage.



With classical music they perform well with restrained uppers, clear mids and warm base. With rock music they can be confused by sustained base complex base but vocals work well and treble is sweet with no tinny cymbals. Sound stage is quite wide and has a sense of depth and appears well layered.



With the stock cable on SE out the Fiio x7ii drives them to good volume, switching to balanced adds more volume and a greater sense of depth.

Used with a Schiit Mjolnir 2, they really sing especially with good NOS valves.



In conclusion if you’re looking for a good well-made set of phones for general listening you cannot go far wrong with these. Go out and audition a pair today to see if they suit your hearing and equipment!

peter1480

500+ Head-Fier
Pros: Not too expensive.
Versatile for different cables and tips.
Lots in the box for the price.
Sound for the price.
Cons: Build quality of some of the parts.
Marmite cable tidy.
Here is my impression of Fiio F5 IEMs, which I've now been listening to for a few weeks. I'd like to point out that these are mine they are not a review sample. The sound I hear is through my 57 year old ears, so my ears are well 'burned in' and probably not perfect. So if you get the impression from this that you might like the sound , go out an audition them for yourself.

They come in the usual Fiio high standard of packaging, a trait of Chinese product, which many western retailers could learn from. Via AliExpress.com, when in stock from $59-$79 depending on what they are paired(free) with.
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In the box, a classy glossy black hard case.
The IEMs.
A 3.5mm cable with remote function.
A 2.5mm balanced cable.
A good range of tips of the silicon mushroom type.
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Over all they look well made the finish is good. (Though Fiio did delay launch due to MMCX connection issues on the balanced cable. Mine was speedily replaced by Fiio who have excellent customer service and are easily contactable via this site.) The IEMs themselves are silky black with L and R printed on them. There are 3 small vent holes. The ear tubes will take T400 Comply tips, more of which later. In your hand they do n't feel that light.

The cable with remote is all black and feel suitably flexible and the buttons positive, there are some silver highlight on the remote, classy or citch. The remote is on the right ear cable, personally I would have preferred it on the main part of the cable. There is a rubber attached cable tidy, which sometime is a nuance other time not, its Marmite. The is a little switch for Android and i-things. A mic is built in for use with a phone. It appears non-microphonic in sound transmission up the cable. Connectors are all gold plated and the MMCX are marked L and R but it is hard to see.

The balanced cable has a rubbery feel and is quite flexible and soft but a bit easily tangled. It appears non-microphonic. Connectors are all gold plated and the MMCX are marked L and R but it is hard to see. Again it has the Marmite cable tidy. There is a small bit of plastic where the cable divides with Fiio on it in white. As these are MMCX terminated IEMs cable rolling is an option.

The supplied tips will probably suit most ears but as I have mentioned there are other possibilities.

The classy gloss black hard case is nice and should protect the contents against daily life, it will take a medium size Bobino, if you like to wind your cables around something.

So over all they look like good value for money. That's why I bought them, for every day use and not heart breaking if they get trashed in portable use. But that being said I have and have had some great sounding and expensive IEMs and headphones. I like music and I like it to sound as good as it can when I am listening to it. I have been a devotee of higher resolution file formats and graduated away from i-devices as other better (my opinion only) devices came along. I've had a number of DAPs over the years have decided that I like Fiio's sound signature. My main portable players are an X5iii and an X7 with the balanced AM3. At home I have a full blown Naim system with dedicated head phone amps, Naim and Schiit Mjolnir 2. Apparently according to people who like to define the sound, I like the darker side of neutral that is not particularly clinical. I like valves! My music tastes are broad you'll equal likely to find me listening to baroque harpsichord as Five finger death punch. According to my Synology drive I have eleven weeks 24/7 of stored music, remember I'm 57 so I've been collecting a long time! Quit a lot to test any thing with.

Out of the box, having spent the day with a pair of Fidue A83 in my ears for most of the day, the F5's sounded good. But I subscribe to the burn in theory. My Naim system stays on and I mean, on, not standby, 24/7, that's the way it is designed. My wife calls the the space heater! So the F5's were set to burn in on a continuous long play list on an old ipod classic for 24 hours.

The following night some more dedicated listening commenced.

I repeat this again - my 57 year old ears, so my ears are well 'burned in' and probably not perfect. So if you get the impression from this that you might like the sound , go out an audition them for your self.

These impression are based on the balanced cable out of the Fiio X5iii, low gain, volume at 45 -50. The first impression is that they are good and well worth the money. The sound signature is on the dark side of neutral with well controlled bass but not really a the expense of the mid rage or the treble.

With some music - and I'd have to say they are good all-rounders:

These are the tracks that I listened to last night who wants to Ed Sheran at Glasto? It's just music I like but they give headphones a work out! (I've added links so you can play along as well though the quality at youtube is a bit variable!)

F.Couperin Harpsichord Works Vol.1, Scott Ross
Harpsichord musics is very complex the timbre and dynamic range is great but it is delivered with detail and panache via the F5's.

Five Finger Death Punch – My Nemesis from Got Your Six
Oh god its just mastered for volume in places, bass is delivered well mid is pronounced, treble has tiz, this is music for speakers! But I've listened to the whole album without pain on the F5's.

Joe Bonamassa - Sloe Gin - Muddy Wolf at Red Rocks
Complex guitar, sustain is delivered faithfully and vocals sound velvety, cymbals are clear with good decay. The organ sounds very good at 4.40mins.

Rush - YYZ from Moving Pictures
Listen for the control and slam as the bass kicks in at 33sec, I've always thought the HQ master of this was a bit tinny but theses IEM make the most of it, taming a bit.

Royal Blood – Lights Out from How did We Get So Dark
Wow, listening to this it gives the divers a good work out, bass can be a bit boomy but that's how it sounds on speakers.

Celine Dion - Think Twice form The Colour of My Love
F5's like the female voice, especially a well mastered track like this, giving the voice clarity and prominence.

Enrique Bunbury – Ódiame from Licenciado Cantinas
Odd bass rumble at 40secs vibrates you fillings, the cha-cha at 1.35min has punch and slam without tiz, thought the mid voice gets lost a bit.

Bartók Concerto for Orchestra IV: Intermezzo interrotto. Allegretto; Ormandy
The orchestral range is handled well with a sense on depth wide sound-stage, I must try a binaural cut of this I have. On volume, bewhere of the changes from quite to loud!

Stelth – How Much Further (download)
Voice is dreamy pulled out well from the backing, sound-stage fells a little compressed the treble has the same feeling slightly muddy but that could be the mastering.

These are good value everyday IEMs but how do the stack up against higher priced ones. Well, quite well, you ' have to sit down in a quite room and listen hard. Suffice to say the F5's punch above their weight. Put them against Fidu A83s and the F5's mid range gets shown up a bit. Against Audeze isine 20 properly EQ'ed for android and there is just more of everything but especialy sound stage and space. Finally, Shure SE846 (borrowed) well no contest. But remember these all cost many, many times more and think of the pain of trashing a bit of any of them, while out and about.

Playing further, a bit of tip rolling. Comply tips work well for sound insulation and make the base a bit less boomy. Tips one size down allow for deeper insertion and at an angle, results in clearer mid range. The ridged tips from Audeze also work well but appear more bright. Cable rolling, all balanced. A silver plated cable from China appeared to add a bit of sparkle, a Fidu cable less base, I would consider. Put the F5's on a top notch system and they just sound really listenable to bass with punch and slam, treble with clarity and a well defined mid especial with female voice. Playing with ViPER, which I do n't actually like, the F5's respond well to EQing allowing you to compensate for the mastering of the recording, or even dare I say, the deficiencies of you hearing.
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(My ears first selfie :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:)

Go out and have a lighten or a this price buy a pair, I'd be surprised if you did n't use them quite often.

Hope you enjoy this ramble.................

peter1480

500+ Head-Fier
Pros: Sound stage, detail, balanced out put, build quality, value for money, accessories.
Cons: Button placement, slow screen, no dual band Wi-Fi, Fiio app still a work in progress.
Disclaimer:
I would like to thank Fiio very much for providing me with the opportunity to review the X5 iii. This review is part of Fiio’s tour, there is no monetary incentive for a positive review, the player is on loan and I will be as objective as my ears can in my evaluation of the player.
 
About me:
My ears are 57 years old and have listened all kinds of noise! My first recollections of music are of my grandfather's 78's, symphonies on 15 or more records, imagine. I 've progressed from a dancette record player to some serious Hi-Fi, Linn, Naim et al. I had one of the first Philips CD players and one of the Iriver CD-R players, onto Ipods and phones; to DAP and stacks and now HR DAPs.
My musical taste is wide, all forms of rock comprises most of my collection but there is an extensive repertoire of classical, jazz, country and the spoken word. If I like it, I listen to it and that is commuting, at work and often in the evening with phones when the grand children are in bed.
 
The excellent reviews that have already been posted have dealt with the unboxing, aesthetics and technical details. Me thinks they know a lot more about these things than I do and are far better photographers.
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So here goes, I've loaded three SanDisk Ultra 256GB MicroSD, one full for a Fiio x7 and two split for the x5iii, with an identical music selection, everting from classical to rock in mp3, DSD, WAV and FLAC. The fiio player app on the x7 and the x5iii I would consider is identical FW 3.1.5 as of 24/2/17, I will not dwell on the outstanding issues, check out the x7 thread. Both scanned the same number of tracks, not all my music by about a 1000, but Fiio are on the case so hope fully this will be fixed soon. So I have also added the Neturon (payed for) player so I can compare SQ on that as well. Phones are Meze 99 classics, Audeze LCD-XC and Fidue A83 all using standard cable and balanced cable on each one. Also to test out the bluetooth a pair of Sennheiser momentum 2.0 on-ear wireless and some Sony SBH80's IEs. I do not tend to mess with output ie no Viper and no equaliser, so hopefully I'm reflecting what each bit of kit has to offer with each other. The x7 is about 8 months old, as a believer in 'run-in' electronics the x5iii has been sat playing to its self when not in use so should be run in. By the way the clear plastic cover is a nice touch but it gets in the way of getting a 2.5mm balanced plug in fully seated especially if its a chunky one. But the included leather cover is open at the bottom so has no such problem.
 
In Fiio 'pure' mode (which I believe bypasses a lot of android):
 
Sennheiser momentum 2.0 on-ear wireless:
AptX is enabled, mid range appears a bit less clear than with the x7 but bass is the same.
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Sony SBH80
AptX works. Bass heavy but quite detailed with both, but you can tell they are quite cheep with both players, the x5iii is more forgiving I think and provides better results. But see the Fidues below, is it just best for IEs?
 
Meze 99 classic:
With the stock 3.5mm unbalanced you would be hard pushed to tell which player was which. However with the balanced cables and the x7 with the AM3, the x7 presents a better sound stage, bass is the same with both but top-end a bit brighter with the x5iii. Rock sounds particularly nice with this combo.
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Fidue A83:
I hate to say this but with IEM I think the x5iii has it perhaps because they are easier to drive? The difference on volume being 30 on the x7 and 42 on the x5iii for a similar perceived volume. But again with the balanced cable the x7 has it by a slim margin. Both sound excellent with rock.
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So lets put something silly on the end of them both....... Audeze LCD-XC:
Sorry the x7 wins just more of everything. But with either, a good combo for classical and Jazz.
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Not phones but the x5iii sounds convincing with a Audio Pro T10 and at the other end of the spectrum a Naim Hi-Fi with Neat speakers.
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Android mode using Neutron, with none of Neutrons added extras turned on and the EQ left off, the sound is perhaps not quite so precise, bass while strong feels a little dense, mid range is open and clear, top range sometimes a little splashy and occasionally harsh.
 
Taking the x5iii out and about in your pocket. It's a bit easier to fit in your pocket than the x7 being a bit smaller and the buttons are less easily knocked. I did n't accidentally trigger fast forward as I sometimes do with the x7. But activating the player again with the on/off button you can easily hit the play/pause. The screen seems less sensitive to my fat fingered prods than the x7 or a SonyZX phone. I use Sony SBH80's on bluetooth for the commute and Fidue A83's in the office. Last week I used the same phones for the same amount of time with the x7, the x7 wins on battery by about an hour. On bluetooth connection it breaks less frequently and you can get about 2m further away with the x7 than the x5iii, unless its stood upright, same with Wi-Fi strength, (strange). One day I managed to only get 6 hours use out of the x5iii but the screen was on a lot and I was using the Audezes.DSC_0012.jpg
 
Tidal, Amazon Music loaded via Google Play Store. They both work as expected and will download to internal and external storage. The x5iii appeared to cope well with different sample rates, though I'm no expert on those. I think the sound quality is a bit better than the Neutron player app but perhaps not as good at the Fiio player in pure mode, over all similar to the x7. Using the Fiio app to play DLNA music from my Synology DS716 worked very well, the same as the x7, as I expected and a similar sound.
 
I may just be getting use to the x5iii or it may just be running in but I think the sound stage feels bigger, bass has stayed firm and punchy, treble well controlled as time is going on. But I still love my x7it sounds ….....less restrained, perhaps more effortless?
 
Using the x5iii as a USB DAC on a Windows 10 i7 all SSD computer. Not something I ever done much, I've too many other ways to store music. It says 44,100 Hz 24 bits and is playing a DSD track, has 'played' uncompressed and compressed FLAC, MP3, using Sony Media Go with the HR tag lit up when you would expect. The Fiio diver is set at stream mode reliable, buffer, auto. It sounds nice, bit rich and warm, no pops or buz.
 
The x5iii bluetoothed with my Mini and sounded fine, I nominally use a USB stick and the built in Mini player, all MP3 tracks. Mini has the advantage it works well with Ipods all the track info etc. being displayed not the case with the x5iii.
 
A quick comparison to other players, some I own some friends do some with my phones some with friends (very subjective sic.):
Ibasso DX80, generally warmer and less high end detail than the x5iii
A&K Junior, very similar to the x5iii
Sony Walkman NW-A35, I like the interface, but very bright in comparison to the x5iii.
X5 2nd. 3 is better than 2 but similar signature.
Iopd classic, more convenient than the x5iii but no comparison in SQ.
HTC phone and a mojo, nice, mojo doing all the work but adds bulk.
Cyin N6, the design is interesting and the sound is more x5 2nd .If I had n't heard the x5iii I may well......
remember this is my ears personal opinion!
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Selecting some specific tracks not for any reason just as I've played them as I typed this:
Classic Rock
Rush: Moving Pictures: XYZ: FLAC:96/24:
The drumming is clean and the symbols not too splashy. The base rattles your fillings as it cuts in. Mids are well distinguished. The whip crack noises have space and depth. I've often though this was quite brightly recorded when played on an Ipod but the x5iii makes the best of it. I thine the x7 gives it a bit of a wider sound stage.
 
Classical
Bartok: Concerto For Orchestra – Reiner-CSO: Elegia: Andante non troppo: DSD/128:
Violin a nice, the flute is very crisp and clear. Base is very reverberative and deep. The sound stage appears wide and had depth. The wind section has real attack. The loud passages are well contrasted to the quite melancholy passages. With the Mezes I think this is easier to listen to with the x5iii than the x7, perhaps it too involving for comfort. But this is not music to relax to it's music you listen to and will make the hairs on the back of you neck stand on end. Exceptional on both with the Audezes
 
Jazz
Jazz Various:2006 Chesky Records: Meditation - Ana Caram: WAV :96/24:
Voice is clear with no top ends sibilance, while the piano bounces away in the background, the appears to be a lot of space between it and the singers. During the the duet there is good voice separation. The piano roll-off at the the end has drama. With the Fidue A83's its quite dream like it rolls around you head.
 
Rock
Five Finger Death Punch: American Capitalist:100 ways to hate: FLAC: 44/16 encoded from CD with EAC:
Power and dynamic range are improved and the voice stands out. In a track I've always thought must have been mastered as an MP3; the drumming appears to have more space and is cleaner and the guitar mids are cleaner. When it stops it stops, is there hiss, no its jut the hairs in you ear just stopping moving. Gives the Momentums a workout.
 
Contemporary Rock:
Coheed and Cambria:Good God Apollo I'm burning star IV: The willing well III: Appollo II: MP3 download:
MP3 is what it is you can tell stuff is missing, it's compressed but it sounds better than on and Ipod perhaps a bit more life. Voices are less splashy and the instruments more clearly defined.
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Hopefully this gives you some idea what the x5iii sounds like at least to my ears. But remember everyone's ears and phones are different and we all have our own preferences.
The good news is that if you want to play around the equaliser on the Fiio app, it is good and then there is always Viper. In Neutron there are extensive sound controllers that an make your music sound almost any way you want it to or even make up for deficiencies in you phones or hearing.
 
Conclusion:
Will I go out and buy one? Yes I have. What will it replace an Ipod classic (clapped out). Is it the best DAP? Perhaps my Naim HDX is but then you can not stuff it in your pocket and the x5iii is very listenable to and a 10th. of the price.
 
I hope you enjoy reading this, its my first review! Thank you Fiio for letting me have a play with the x5iii.
peter1480
peter1480
Vinick, as I said everyones ears are diffenent. Best way is to go try one out for your self.
NoMythsAudio
NoMythsAudio
As you have both, if you were to just have one which would you pick; X7 or X5iii, considering both in same price range? I don't necessarily gravitate towards the latest stuff just looking for bang for money. And no I can't demo them either as I live in the Caribbean ehere I have to import all my gadjets.

Thanks.
peter1480
peter1480
NoMythsAudio,
if it is for the office the x7, if it is to be mobile the x5iii. If you have hard to drive phones the x7.
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