[kwkarth]

One more thing...
 
Your desired EQ curve will change based upon the average sound pressure level at which you listen.  The softer volume level at which you listen, will require greater levels of "correction" at both ends of the spectrum to achieve the "same" levels of satisfaction.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fletcher%E2%80%93Munson_curves
 

 

[bluemonkeyflyer]

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Your premise #1 is incorrect/impossible, so let's back up and redefine that first.  
 
Second issue...  If you have lived with your current hearing deficiency for any length of time, that has become your personal "norm."  Deviation from that personal "norm," is just that, a deviation.  If that deviation helps in your personal enjoyment and perception of music, then it is good.  If it sounds good, it is good, on a personal level.
 
The BEST thing for you personally is to preserve the hearing acuity you have left.  You do this by limiting your exposure to sound levels over 85dBA.
 

Yes, I understand Assumption #1 is impossible and #2, as well.  I was, perhaps, trying too hard to "level the playing field."  My hypothetical scenario could be posed with the limitations inherent in headphones and sources.  I also agree that "if it sounds good to me, it sounds good to me."  And it does.
 
What I am actually asking is whether or not the logic of my hypothetical is sound and valid.
 
Thanks for the input.
 
BTW, I am very careful with my residual hearing, especially after discovering the LCD2's and other high-end gear.
 

 

[bluemonkeyflyer]

Yes, thanks.  I failed to add that the EQ settings that work for me were based on SPL measured at 80 dB.
 
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One more thing...
 
Your desired EQ curve will change based upon the average sound pressure level at which you listen.  The softer volume level at which you listen, will require greater levels of "correction" at both ends of the spectrum to achieve the "same" levels of satisfaction.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fletcher%E2%80%93Munson_curves
 

 

 

[kwkarth]

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Do you guys use a sound meter to measure the levels coming out of your LCD-2?  I'm usually pretty conservative with my playing levels and no ringing yet in my ears, but I've debating whether I should pick up one of these meters.  

Many people fashion an inexpensive sound level meter coupler for headphones from a CD and a Radio Shack meter.  Using rubber grommets/rubber tape/etc.  create an airtight seal around the mic of the sound level meter and the center hole of a CD.  In turn, the CD is placed on the ear pad of the headphone in place of where your ear would be, and SPL measurements are taken in that manner.
 
Another method I have used is to download an app for my smartphone that is a real time spectrum analyser.   I put the phone mic between the earpads of the headphone and measure away.
 
 

 

[bluemonkeyflyer]

Yes.  I use a digital SPL meter from Radio Shack.  I followed a member's design for a headphone adapter made with a "filler disk" from a stack of CD's and duct tape to secure it to the probe.  This can then be pressed against the cups, one at a time of course, for SPL measurements.  I was surprised that my favored listening level is 90-95 dB.  As pointed out by kwkarth, I have since reduced the volume level to 85 dB or lower and limit the time duration per listening session.
 
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Do you guys use a sound meter to measure the levels coming out of your LCD-2?  I'm usually pretty conservative with my playing levels and no ringing yet in my ears, but I've debating whether I should pick up one of these meters.  
 


 

 

 

[castlevania32]

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Granted, I have not tried this with anything except iTunes' limited EQ.   I plan to try Isone Pro this weekend.  
So, my question is this:  Is my reasoning valid (or 'sound' 

), from a hearing perception perspective, that by making these EQ adjustments I am approximating the perception of people with normal hearing who don't need and don't like EQ'ing?   

That got to be the hardest question i've ever read on head-fi

It would take a hearing physiology specialist to answer that...and on this forum there are mostly enginneers and audiophiles

 

 

[WNBC]

Thanks guys, I did a quick test with a downloaded app for the Droid2 and a CD in between the headphones.  I was measuring about 75-80 db for loud listening.   So I guess I'm safe for now.  FEDEX is here.  Rev2.  Gotta head to work but I'll make sure the headband is in there 

 
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Many people fashion an inexpensive sound level meter coupler for headphones from a CD and a Radio Shack meter.  Using rubber grommets/rubber tape/etc.  create an airtight seal around the mic of the sound level meter and the center hole of a CD.  In turn, the CD is placed on the ear pad of the headphone in place of where your ear would be, and SPL measurements are taken in that manner.
 
Another method I have used is to download an app for my smartphone that is a real time spectrum analyser.   I put the phone mic between the earpads of the headphone and measure away.

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Yes.  I use a digital SPL meter from Radio Shack.  I followed a member's design for a headphone adapter made with a "filler disk" from a stack of CD's and duct tape to secure it to the probe.  This can then be pressed against the cups, one at a time of course, for SPL measurements.  I was surprised that my favored listening level is 90-95 dB.  As pointed out by kwkarth, I have since reduced the volume level to 85 dB or lower and limit the time duration per listening session.

 

[K3cT]

Can you guys post slower? I'm having difficulties tracking this thread.

 
I haven't opened this forum for about a week since yesterday and lo and behold! 300+ unread replies in this thread to digest. Is this what they call euphoria?

 

[kwkarth]

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Can you guys post slower? I'm having difficulties tracking this thread.

I haven't opened this forum for about a week since yesterday and lo and behold! 300+ unread replies in this thread to digest. Is this what they call euphoria?

Maybe it's auphoria.  

 
 

 

[WarriorAnt]

Audio Nervosa!

 

[bluemonkeyflyer]

Good question, let's hear what the more technical people have to say about EQ compensation.  Another way to put is if distortion or coloration or clipping an issue when you augment the levels.  If that is the case then what you hear is different than what we hear.  But if increasing levels moderately doesn't distort at the frequencies you mentioned then it is very likely you hear what we hear.  
 


 

I hear no distortion or clipping at these settings, believe it or not. But, Hey! I'm nearly deaf. I'm lucky to hear anything at all.

Hear no evil. LOL

 

[Loevhagen]

Decided to take the LCD-2s for a "walk" outside today.
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 

[n3rdling]

Nice pics, love your grass

 

[tupac0306]

How beautiful LCD 2 is...
 
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Decided to take the LCD-2s for a "walk" outside today.
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

 

[Equus]

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Nice pics, love your grass

Agreed.  That looks like a gorgeous lawn.
 
Nice headphones too.