[twister6]

Is the Noir any different from Fourté aside from color ?

Just a color.... just kidding

 

[Deezel177]

Is the Noir any different from Fourté aside from color ?

The dynamic driver's been retuned to add more warmth and all the internals are now soldered with Mundorf Supreme solder. The stock cable is also now made of silver-plated copper. I've given it a brief listen without any sort of burn-in, and early impressions suggest a more coherent response and a warmer, wetter timbre. I have vivid memories of ever-so-slightly wincing whenever cymbals first come through any track on the old Fourté, and I don't get any of that here at all.

If your references are Empire Ears' Phantom, Custom Art's FIBAE Black, etc., the Noir's vocals will still be a touch leaner due to a laid-back lower-midrange. But, unlike the original Fourté (based on memory), the warmer, more natural tone and the boosted linearity between the low-treble and the mids do give the Noir version a lot more realism in spite of the leaner timbre, and a lot less fatigue too.

 

[echineko]

Is the Noir any different from Fourté aside from color ?

Profit margin?

 

[davidmolliere]

Profit margin?

I don’t know, didn’t mean anything like that in my comment, just curious if it was just a special design or a different tuning, looks like they addressed some of the Fourté’s criticism

 

[echineko]

I don’t know, didn’t mean anything like that in my comment, just curious if it was just a special design or a different tuning, looks like they addressed some of the Fourté’s criticism

I meant, I'm not expecting much

 

[proedros]

The dynamic driver's been retuned to add more warmth and all the internals are now soldered with Mundorf Supreme solder. The stock cable is also now made of silver-plated copper. I've given it a brief listen without any sort of burn-in, and early impressions suggest a more coherent response and a warmer, wetter timbre. I have vivid memories of ever-so-slightly wincing whenever cymbals first come through any track on the old Fourté, and I don't get any of that here at all.

If your references are Empire Ears' Phantom, Custom Art's FIBAE Black, etc., the Noir's vocals will still be a touch leaner due to a laid-back lower-midrange. But, unlike the original Fourté (based on memory), the warmer, more natural tone and the boosted linearity between the low-treble and the mids do give the Noir version a lot more realism in spite of the leaner timbre, and a lot less fatigue too.

love it when companies will make a 3800$ iem , in order to improve an earlier ,problematic 3600$ version

i expect a 3600$ to make angels appear from the skies , not to be so problematic like the bold part in daniel's thoughts

gotta love head-fi

 

[pacman46]

love it when companies will make a 3800$ iem , in order to improve an earlier ,problematic 3600$ version

i expect a 3600$ to make angels appear from the skies , not to be so problematic like the bold part in daniel's thoughts

gotta love head-fi

That’s so funny. Love it. It’s sickening but very true !!

 

[deafdoorknob]

3800$ ... this is past the point where, environment permitting, you could get speakers with a lot less limitations than their head-fi kin. I understand that it’s a watch vs clock issue, but still...

btw, @Deezel177 did you end up getting the Trio?

 

[491326]

I've always felt that orchestral music isn't really well served by iems. The smaller size of stage doesn't really work out so well and a lot of instruments often sound smeared together. But of course, this might also be because of the age of the recording.

 

[Deezel177]

3800$ ... this is past the point where, environment permitting, you could get speakers with a lot less limitations than their head-fi kin. I understand that it’s a watch vs clock issue, but still...

btw, @Deezel177 did you end up getting the Trio?

Yep! It'll be featured in a few upcoming comparisons before it gets its own review. I believe you had a question about it that I hadn't answered yet... am I remembering that correctly?

 

[deafdoorknob]

Yep! It'll be featured in a few upcoming comparisons before it gets its own review. I believe you had a question about it that I hadn't answered yet... am I remembering that correctly?

Looking forward to it! @Deezel177

any quasi-affordable 4w cable pairings? Didn’t enjoy it with Oslo or thor 2 4w, for opposite reasons (too relaxed/too contrasty), loved/hated it with Dita truth (hate has to do with ergonomics) currently mainly using Eros 2 4w, Dita at home, PW silver flash with recordings that are too thumpy. thx in advance!

and btw, are you liking it so far?

 

[junix]

love it when companies will make a 3800$ iem , in order to improve an earlier ,problematic 3600$ version

i expect a 3600$ to make angels appear from the skies , not to be so problematic like the bold part in daniel's thoughts

gotta love head-fi

I tried Fourte and U18t.
And the Fourte was meh for me.. then I come to head-fi and everyone is like.. wow what best ever wow.. but I never buy anything that I didn't try first so..
..after trying both a few times I bought U18t, IMHO a much better IEM then the Fourte.

Will try the Noir when/if I manage to, but I honestly look more forward to trying the new Sony noise cancelling wireless IEMs for travelling (What XYZ 1000 WXYZ, I forgot the name..).

 

[Wyville]

I've always felt that orchestral music isn't really well served by iems. The smaller size of stage doesn't really work out so well and a lot of instruments often sound smeared together. But of course, this might also be because of the age of the recording.

I have always preferred IEMs because of their form factor, but because I listen to classical music so much I have been constantly eyeing headphones. The LCD-i4 might be the best compromise, but perhaps that I will see about trying out a few headphones soon to see if I could live with their bulk.

 

[ezekiel77]

I tried Fourte and U18t.
And the Fourte was meh for me.. then I come to head-fi and everyone is like.. wow what best ever wow.. but I never buy anything that I didn't try first so..
..after trying both a few times I bought U18t, IMHO a much better IEM then the Fourte.

Will try the Noir when/if I manage to, but I honestly look more forward to trying the new Sony noise cancelling wireless IEMs for travelling (What XYZ 1000 WXYZ, I forgot the name..).

Fourte was pretty much fixed when they did the Trio hehe.

 

[junix]

I have always preferred IEMs because of their form factor, but because I listen to classical music so much I have been constantly eyeing headphones. The LCD-i4 might be the best compromise, but perhaps that I will see about trying out a few headphones soon to see if I could live with their bulk.

The LCD-i4 is not a compromise, it beats a lot of heavy weight headphones without breaking a sweat.
But if I was you I would probably wait for a second generation to come out (IMHO the LCD-i4 needs the Reveal plugin to work properly as it is tonally a bit skewed).

I hope you manage to try it soon somewhere as I look forward to your thoughts on it..

Fourte was pretty much fixed when they did the Trio hehe.

I love the Trio, tried it a few times. Really nice IEM!