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Focal Clear headphones
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very minor tape hiss, crack and pop, some compression in the vocal, 5:23 appears to be compression artifact, overall the sound is listenable and no crackle in choir vocal. This is a poorly recorded/youtube compressed piece. I would try to find the same track on Qobuz or Tidal or even better on CD/SACD and try again.
I tried FLAC and got a better experience ; still, the voices are "saturated", like covered by a slight sizzling veil.
I hear it especially on the 4th note held and on the 5th (with even a left/right crackle on this one).
The memory of the voice was clearer in my mind.
chesebert
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Found your problem. Your cans are fine.I tried FLAC and got a better experience ; still, the voices are "saturated", like covered by a slight sizzling veil.
I hear it especially on the 4th note held and on the 5th (with even a left/right crackle on this one).
The memory of the voice was clearer in my mind.
Found your problem. Your cans are fine.
Probably.
I was really expecting a cleaner recording.
Shane D
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I will be the first one to admit that I don't have golden ears. That passage sounded just fine to me, but I am not a listener to that genre.@Shane D
I know you really like the Clear (I just begin but me too) : could you give me your opinion on this message ? The listening won't be long (the "problem" appears at the linked sequence) :
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/focal-clear-headphones.861727/post-17915190
chesebert
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For poops and giggles I listened to that same track on Qobuz playing back on my reference headphone rig driving Utopia. You can clearly hear tape hiss, noise and crackle now. It’s not annoying but very prominent during quiet passages. I think they were recording in a church or some huge venue so you hear a lot of echos and resonance. I think the vocal compression is less of actual compression but sounds more like microphone picking up resonance at certain frequencies. Still don’t hear any crackle in the vocal. Utopia sounds a lot better than Clear OG. The soundstage was massive and vocal was quite warm and intimate except for the resonance at certain frequencies from bad mic placement.Probably.
I was really expecting a cleaner recording.
Alright, I ended up doing a serious listening session with my Focal Clear for the last several hours. I have come up with an updated EQ. I highly recommend trying this. With this EQ, the soundstage width and depth both improve. Bass is deep, nicely defined, and tight. The slight midbass hump of the stock tuning has been removed. Instruments have improved layering and separation. I think you will be very impressed if you try this.
Pre-Amp = -5
38Hz = +2 Q 1 Low Shelf Filter
120Hz = -1 Q 3
1.1kHz = -2 Q 2
4kHz = +1 Q 3
5.95kHz = -2 Q 4.5
11.35kHz = -2 Q 3
Pre-Amp = -5
38Hz = +2 Q 1 Low Shelf Filter
120Hz = -1 Q 3
1.1kHz = -2 Q 2
4kHz = +1 Q 3
5.95kHz = -2 Q 4.5
11.35kHz = -2 Q 3
Alright, I ended up doing a serious listening session with my Focal Clear for the last several hours. I have come up with an updated EQ. I highly recommend trying this. With this EQ, the soundstage width and depth both improve. Bass is deep, nicely defined, and tight. The slight midbass hump of the stock tuning has been removed. Instruments have improved layering and separation. I think you will be very impressed if you try this.
Pre-Amp = -5
38Hz = +2 Q 1 Low Shelf Filter
120Hz = -1 Q 3
1.1kHz = -2 Q 2
4kHz = +1 Q 3
5.95kHz = -2 Q 4.5
11.35kHz = -2 Q 3
Hi, I'm currently trying and it's pretty nice ! I think it's a little bit warmer, less precise on each instrument but more on all (the soundstage and layering improve). The bass can sature a little bit on some musics for me.
geometrikz
New Head-Fier
+1 the perforated dekoni sheepskin pads are great. You get a substantial bass boost though.... this may be of use: Dekoni fenestrated sheepskin earpads are my choice for Clear OG ... deeper bass, wider soundstage, firmer build, easy to clean, far less expensive than Focal earpads.
HeadWombat
New Head-Fier
And a treble peak to boot+1 the perforated dekoni sheepskin pads are great. You get a substantial bass boost though.
portalheadd
Head-Fier
It’s been almost 20 years I’ve been into audio and headphones in particular. I remember those days that I was expecting some magical “wow” factors and definitely some cans really delivered that. Like extraordinary image distinction and note isolation of STAXs or mesmerizing midrange portrayal of k1000. Up to this date I still want that “WOW” thing, but No matter how special that factor is, I find myself steering toward that extra normal headphone that just isn’t in the way of the music, it just delivers music in a comprehensive way, without special tricks. Back in the days, I probably wouldn’t appreciate what OG CLEARs (also Utopia) do. It sure doesn’t have THAT wow factor, but when you experience enough of those WOW makers, you start to appreciate headphones like Clears and HD600 more. like most of you, I have owned lots of different headphones, but no matter how special they are, I really can’t put on my headphones, shuffle my playlist and hope for the best. With Clear however, I simply put it on and let it just deliver the music. It doesn’t force you to listen to a specific genres, quiet opposite in-fact, it make me enjoy the music not the gears and equipments. I’m totally happy if now I’m listening to Schnittke and upcoming track is worakls - nocturne, you know. It just delivers.
For appreciating what clear does you should go way too deep into the rabbit hole. Because of that, if Someone new to hobby! Asks me what to get if he/she wants to go to kilobuck territory, I definitely won’t recommend Clears, since they are way too Normal for someone expecting to get wowed. But I use it as my main headphone.
For appreciating what clear does you should go way too deep into the rabbit hole. Because of that, if Someone new to hobby! Asks me what to get if he/she wants to go to kilobuck territory, I definitely won’t recommend Clears, since they are way too Normal for someone expecting to get wowed. But I use it as my main headphone.
What's the "rabbit hole" ?For appreciating what clear does you should go way too deep into the rabbit hole. Because of that, if Someone new to hobby! Asks me what to get if he/she wants to go to kilobuck territory, I definitely won’t recommend Clears, since they are way too Normal for someone expecting to get wowed. But I use it as my main headphone.
I've had the opposite experience: I'm not an audiophile, these are my first high-end headphones, I don't get any 'wow effect' (and I'm not interested in that) but I find them very musical, detailed and pleasant to listen to on all types of music.
Zeppmeister
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Interesting perspective. I haven't tried anything "better" (more expensive, higher end) than the Clear. For me, the wow that the Clear delivers is that they are just so good across the board. Which is what I think you mean by "normal."Because of that, if Someone new to hobby! Asks me what to get if he/she wants to go to kilobuck territory, I definitely won’t recommend Clears, since they are way too Normal for someone expecting to get wowed. But I use it as my main headphone.
For people outside the audiophile world, those who just use the earbuds that come with their iPhone or even AirPods, the Clear will be a definite wow. The "average Joe" has no idea what good audio gear can deliver.
portalheadd
Head-Fier
I didn’t clarify properly. Sorry for that. You absolutely are right. I meant those who expect extraordinary things when they go to high end territory.What's the "rabbit hole" ?
I've had the opposite experience: I'm not an audiophile, these are my first high-end headphones, I don't get any 'wow effect' (and I'm not interested in that) but I find them very musical, detailed and pleasant to listen to on all types of music.
You have a point. I also dislike this rabbit hole metaphor. I just meant they are really good at representing THE music no matter the genre. But for some people, listening to something like HD800s or abyss stuff for the “first time”, may sound much more “different” than a normal entry level headphone.
But Clears never cease to deliver and that’s why i got two pairs of spare pads for them since these are my daily headphone.
sorry if unintentionally, I sounded like an arrogant cocky douchebag. We both love music. And more experience mostly means more mistakes. So I can really appreciate Clear.
portalheadd
Head-Fier
Exactly. I love Clears because They are just a proper, comprehensive and “Normal” sounding headphone. It just portrays music as normal and intact as I want to hear it.Interesting perspective. I haven't tried anything "better" (more expensive, higher end) than the Clear. For me, the wow that the Clear delivers is that they are just so good across the board. Which is what I think you mean by "normal."
For people outside the audiophile world, those who just use the earbuds that come with their iPhone or even AirPods, the Clear will be a definite wow. The "average Joe" has no idea what good audio gear can deliver.