[oopeteroo]

HI
 
first of all,  I cant try any headphones/amps out before purchasing, so all i can do is trust you guys.
I will mainly use the headphone with amp on my laptop for listening to music.
I listens to anything but mostly kpop, cpop, jpop, ballad, female vocal music and paino music
 
i have listed it down to the following headphones combos.
But i dont know which one to choose, please help me out
The price doesnt really matter but i would like to limit it to the price of these combos.
 
hd650 + good synergy amp (bottlehead crack? heard this one is good)
 
hd600 + good synergy amp (bottlehead crack? heard this one is good)
 
k7xx + good synergy amp
 
x2 + good synergy amp
 
Msr7 + good synergy amp (AT-HA22TUBE? heard this one is good)
 
other are welcome as well
 
which one of these combo will be best for me ?
which one of these will get the most worth of the money i spend ?
 
im leaning more to hd650 or hd600 with bottlehead crack or project ember.
But will the hd600 sound as good as hd650 will bottlehead ? Do they scales as good with bottlehead crack ?
 
And the other combo will they sound as good as hd650 + bottlehead crack with theirs respective matched amp ?

 

[Mr Rick]

I understand the HD 650s sound great with the Schiit Valhalla 2.

 

[oopeteroo]

anyone know about k7xx vs fidelio x2 ?

 

[onebigunion]

  anyone know about k7xx vs fidelio x2 ?

 Wow, those two have about as opposite of a sound signature as you can find.  X2 favors the bass, and is de-emphasixed and a little rolled off at the top end, with a rich, somewhat thick midrange.  K7xx is light (too light IMO) in the bass, and has an empahsized top end.  Very detailed but can easily get sibilant, and fatiguing.  Mid-range is thin and analytical.  If you like one, you won't like the other. and amps can only do so much to modify the sound.
 
These are your two "riskiest" picks, because they sit somewhat at the extreme ends of the sound spectrum.  If you go for one of them, make sure you have a good return policy.

 

[oopeteroo]

   Wow, those two have about as opposite of a sound signature as you can find.  X2 favors the bass, and is de-emphasixed and a little rolled off at the top end, with a rich, somewhat thick midrange.  K7xx is light (too light IMO) in the bass, and has an empahsized top end.  Very detailed but can easily get sibilant, and fatiguing.  Mid-range is thin and analytical.  If you like one, you won't like the other. and amps can only do so much to modify the sound.
 
These are your two "riskiest" picks, because they sit somewhat at the extreme ends of the sound spectrum.  If you go for one of them, make sure you have a good return policy.

thanks for the info, i didnt know that
i thought all the headphones i listed have somehow similar sound signature
i heard x2 have pretty good sound and  can beat hd650, but dont know if it can beat hd650+crack
i also had the annies once (think k7xx was based on it?)  and liked it over the hd650 with its vocal.
But i have not heard hd650/hd600 with crack or ember so i want to know if those headphone can go against it ?
 
i somehow got a picture in my head that hd650+crack is one of the good end game combo out there

 

[Music Alchemist]

For what it's worth, someone I know who bought both the HD 600 and X2 doesn't hear significant differences between them. Personally, I would choose the HD 600. The HD 650 may be your safest choice, since it's more forgiving.
 
I think the Schiit Magni 2 Uber (which I own) is a much better value than the Bottlehead Crack, though I suppose it depends on your sonic preferences.
 
What DAC are you using?
 
By the way, I like your avatar!

 

[oopeteroo]

  For what it's worth, someone I know who bought both the HD 600 and X2 doesn't hear significant differences between them. Personally, I would choose the HD 600. The HD 650 may be your safest choice, since it's more forgiving.
 
I think the Schiit Magni 2 Uber (which I own) is a much better value than the Bottlehead Crack, though I suppose it depends on your sonic preferences.
 
What DAC are you using?
 
By the way, I like your avatar!

im using Audio-GD nbf-11.32 as an dac/amp combo
I aslo like ur avatar

 

[Music Alchemist]

  im using Audio-GD nbf-11.32 as an dac/amp combo
I aslo like ur avatar

 
Nice. So I guess you're going after the pleasant harmonic distortion of tubes since you already have a solid-state amp.
 
I'm assuming you recognize mine, but I don't know if yours is just a random online image or an actual character.

 

[Music Alchemist]

http://diy.koenigs.dk/2014/03/02/bottlehead-crack-and-speedball-review/
 

 

[oopeteroo]

   
Nice. So I guess you're going after the pleasant harmonic distortion of tubes since you already have a solid-state amp.
 
I'm assuming you recognize mine, but I don't know if yours is just a random online image or an actual character.

na, i just want to find my end game combo for this time or something i can work towards to never heard tubes tho so im interested
there is so many headphones and amp combos but i cant try them all to see what i like best
 
actually i dont mine is misaka mikoto from Toaru Majutsu no Index

 

[bavinck]

I have HD600 and X2 and I do notice what I would describe as a significant difference in the low end. The X2 is more full and deep in the bass. A good OTL like the crack won't work well with the X2 though, so if you want to go all tubes you best go for the Senns.

 

[Music Alchemist]

  na, i just want to find my end game combo for this time or something i can work towards to never heard tubes tho so im interested
there is so many headphones and amp combos but i cant try them all to see what i like best
 
actually i dont mine is misaka mikoto from Toaru Majutsu no Index

 
Well, since you already know you like the 650 (or so it seems to me), I think it's your best bet.
 
Mine is Kurumu Kurono from Rosario + Vampire. (The manga was ten times better than the anime.)
 
If you look at my old avatars, you'll probably recognize some of them.
 
Can't believe I only vaguely recall the name of that one, despite watching between 70 and 100 days worth of anime and talking to lots of anime fans. Just added it to my impossibly long plan to watch list on my MAL profile.
 
OMG. I just looked Misaka Mikoto up on Google Images and instantly like her.

 

[oopeteroo]

  http://diy.koenigs.dk/2014/03/02/bottlehead-crack-and-speedball-review/
 

yeah i always read hd650+ crack is awsome
but i also like the mids a little better on annie than the hd650
and i also loved he500, x2 same sound?..........but with crack u never know xD
 
i really wish i could test all the headphones but i cant

  I have HD600 and X2 and I do notice what I would describe as a significant difference in the low end. The X2 is more full and deep in the bass. A good OTL like the crack won't work well with the X2 though, so if you want to go all tubes you best go for the Senns.

which one do u like more ? hd600 or x2 ?

 

[oopeteroo]

   
Well, since you already know you like the 650 (or so it seems to me), I think it's your best bet.
 
Mine is Kurumu Kurono from Rosario + Vampire. (The manga was ten times better than the anime.)
 
If you look at my old avatars, you'll probably recognize some of them.
 
Can't believe I only vaguely recall the name of that one, despite watching between 70 and 100 days worth of anime and talking to lots of anime fans. Just added it to my impossibly long plan to watch list on my MAL profile.
 
OMG. I just looked Misaka Mikoto up on Google Images and instantly like her.

i did watch Rosario + Vampire a little but didnt like it lol thats not a small list there just like my manga list

 

[MrPanda]

I agree with OneBigUnion on the K7xx vs X2 assessment for the most part, and I have both headphones.   The K7xx  (I have K712) is more of a reference headphone. 
It's very clear and transparent, and has pretty fast and pretty accurate bass.  Soundstage is very good, overall comfort and weight are good also.   Needs some power to shine.  The downfall is the high-end, it's kind of bright and kind of fatiguing, at least with my Bifrost/Asgard 2 setup.  X2 is more engaging, has a fuller sounding bass and I'd say a wider soundstage.  It's not fatiguing at all, even for long listening sessions.  The K712 has the upper hand in treble clarity though, as the X2 is a little grainy way up at the top.  The X2 sounds great with any of the solid state amps, phones, iPads, etc that I have tried it with.  A little FiiO is plenty of power for it, although I think the Asgard 2 might be a better fit for it. The X2 has much fuller bass than the Senns, and I'm going to say it has a more "apparent" bass than the K712 which may edge it out in control if not by amount...