rhythmdevils
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If you look at his CSD thread you will find that he has been taking subjective notes before measuring for the past year.
If you look at his CSD thread you will find that he has been taking subjective notes before measuring for the past year.
I like the M-80s, they sound good to my ears and make for excellent hard rock cans. The best thing about them, though, is their durability. I've not been gentle with mine and they still look almost new.
How comfortable are they for big heads?
What about isolation, leakage and sensitivity?
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What's shocking is all this skepticism of Beyerdynamic (and the decades of experience of their acoustic engineers have) contrasted with blind faith in Purrin*.
*No offence to Purrin, this post isn't directed at him.
I would describe it more like trust with Purrin. He's earned my trust after a year of scrutinizing his measurements and the way they compare to my own impressions not to mention getting to know him personally. Beyer and pretty much every other headphone manufacturer has earned my distrust after 7 years being frustrated by the mediocre to crappy headphones they churn out.
I don't trust decades of existence. I trust results. I find Purrin's results to be outstanding (though of course, not perfect) and I find Beyer's results to be average at best.
Sounds like they wouldn't be any better than my HD25-1 II .
What about the V'MODA Crossfade M80?
What else should I look at?
If there are indeed QC issues with Beyerdynamic, I would rather be informed.
What's shocking is all this skepticism of Beyerdynamic (and the decades of experience of their acoustic engineers have) contrasted with blind faith in Purrin*.
*No offence to Purrin, this post isn't directed at him.
Depends what kind of music you usually listen to and also your sonical preference
So my 1350's the bottom one on the graphs. I always like being able to pick out details in the lowest octaves on these, and now I know why: there's a huge bleedin' suckout in the mid-upper bass! Like half the bass stood aside for a second and said, "no, I insist, after you". The rest of the FR more or less makes sense, treble's down where it would annoy me and up where it wouldn't. Still love these 'phones.
It's worth pointing out that the 3 measured sets are essentially random selection and that the disparities between them go far beyond what should be acceptable in a high-end product by a serious brand with decades of experience.
It's also worth pointing out that even though I own what's arguably the weidest measuring pair, I still think they sound good. I'll have to spend some type listening to bass-heavy tracks to figure out why the mid-bass hump doesn't sound so bad and I already know that sins of omission in the early-to-mid treble are easier on the ear. Since the 1350s are otherwise well-behaved, it will be interesting to find out how they sound after EQ. It might be that, when EQ-ed to an even response I might not think as highly of them. Of course then I'd have to figure out whether to blame my plebian taste, near-deafness or a microphone
I listen mostly to rock/indie music, in terms of sound I lie a fairly neutral, leaning to warm sound.
I'm very pleased with my AKG K550 headphones for home use.
Generally I prefer the comfort of the HD25 to the DT1350. Interestingly the M-80 uses less clamping force but makes my ears hurt much earlier than both the HD25 and the DT1350, in my opinion due to the lack of swiveling cups.
I don't listen to rock/indie that much, so I can't comment on the sound signatures with regard to that. To me the M-80 is warmer than the HD25, ffering more but not necessarily deeper bass while the DT1350 is more neutral if sometimes seems a bit unengaged, reaching deeper than both the HD25 and the M-80 (which is nice with electronic music...).
I've found isolation quite on par between the HD25 and the M-80, the DT1350 maybe a bit better if positioned correctly.
Comparing them to the K550 in my opinion the DT1350 has the most similar sound signature.