[daltonlanny]

Buying a Ragnarok to power an HD650 sounds a little absurd. I'd just buy a better headphone at that point. If you're after top-end detail/shimmer/that sort of stuff, the HD800S would be a big upgrade for you, or a Mr Speakers Ether C Flow or something like that. Or just go with the Jotunheim, it has plenty of power. Both are kinda bright so they'll botn open up the top end for you. 

I already own a HD800 with SDR mod, and a Hifiman HE-6.
I just like listening to the HD650 over both of them sometimes, and I am looking for a good amp to power them with.

 

[MarkF786]

mike has a great usb upgrade just for u! it's called "buy an optical cable." Plugs into every mac's headphone jack.

Except for those times when I want to use my Macs built in speakers for something and have to reach around and unplug the optical cable :-/ That's why I prefer USB to my Bimby (when it works).

 

[bosiemoncrieff]

Except for those times when I want to use my Macs built in speakers for something and have to reach around and unplug the optical cable :-/ That's why I prefer USB to my Bimby (when it works).

Omg someone call the international criminal court this is a crime against humanity!!

Having to unplug a cable?? To revert from headphones to speakers??? THE INJUSTICE OF IT ALL. #thanksobama

 

[cskippy]

The real question is why would you EVER want to listen to the internal speakers?  

 

[MattTCG]

I already own a HD800 with SDR mod, and a Hifiman HE-6.
I just like listening to the HD650 over both of them sometimes, and I am looking for a good amp to power them with.

 
You are asking for an amp to match with the hd650 or hd800 and he-6? Or all? The Jot is just great with the 650. Of course he-6 is a different animal altogether.  

 

[bosiemoncrieff]

How about Ragnarok?

 

[JuanCamiloso]

   
You are asking for an amp to match with the hd650 or hd800 and he-6? Or all? The Jot is just great with the 650. Of course he-6 is a different animal altogether.  

 
I am curious. I have read many times that the Jot pairs well with the HD650, but also that it may be too bright with other headphones. Which one would you recommend for the HD800?
 
I am currently looking for a balanced amp, I have a Focal Elear, and since they are v-shaped I am very afraid of treble murder with the Jot. Maybe in the future I would get a HD800s.

 

[daltonlanny]

You are asking for an amp to match with the hd650 or hd800 and he-6? Or all? The Jot is just great with the 650. Of course he-6 is a different animal altogether.  

The HD650.

 

[MattTCG]

The only real shortcoming of the Jot is the lack of staging. But I find that it actually has better synergy than the Rag when it comes to the 650. Jot has some of the best price to performance ratio ever for solid state. So if you want solid state and balanced then you really can't go wrong with this amp.

 

[sovereign]

mike has a great usb upgrade just for u! it's called "buy an optical cable." Plugs into every mac's headphone jack.

The 2016 MBP does not have an optical output.

 

[bosiemoncrieff]

The 2016 MBP does not have an optical output.

Actually the MacBook Air and new 12" MacBook "Adorable" also don't have it. I'm so glad I got the 2015 MBP. Apple is really showing audiophiles the finger. The new iMac may well lack it as well. Le sigh.

 

[MarkF786]

Omg someone call the international criminal court this is a crime against humanity!!

Having to unplug a cable?? To revert from headphones to speakers??? THE INJUSTICE OF IT ALL. #thanksobama

Why do so many idiots on the Internet assume they know what's best for another person?

I bought a USB DAC because I want to use it with USB.

 

[Soundsgoodtome]

This. Even with the help of a freya it sounded closed in. (Spring 3 dac)

The only real shortcoming of the Jot is the lack of staging. But I find that it actually has better synergy than the Rag when it comes to the 650. Jot has some of the best price to performance ratio ever for solid state. So if you want solid state and balanced then you really can't go wrong with this amp.

 

[MikeW]

Im sure something like a Singer F1 is way, way better then mac optical anyway, but it is a relatively expensive, ugly, bulky add-on, for a portable/semi portable setup.

 

[chenszhanx]

Finally i sold my jotunheim. After the experience with mojo,i can't listen the internal dac.the amplifier section is really good. I believe with a good balanced dac sounds espectacular.
In every case, the jotunheim is a really good product for the price

I was  wondering you use 1/4" trs or XLR when you comparing jot's internal dac and mojo?
 
I tried both when I comparing Grace M9xx(as dac) 、Pioneer XDP-300R(as single-end and balanced dac) and jot internal dac.
 
 
SE phone output
   
   M9xx>300R(both SE and BA) >>>> jot DAC
 
Balanced  phone output 
 
   300R BA>M9xx>300R SE>jot DAC
 
 
I guess that using amp's SE out will eliminate most of benefit from balanced source
Jot's internal dac is "acceptable" when use XLR out put to me for this price.