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Originally Posted by adhoc /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I've always wondered - how do you all swap tubes willy nilly without having to modify the amplifier to accommodate the new tube's completely different curves?
It's something that has always confounded me - it's the main reason why I dropped down to 'stock' 6AS7s from 5998/421As in my HD-25. Just because the plugs fit and music comes out doesn't mean that everything is a-OK!
Not trying to troll here, but just expressing something that's been bothering me for some time... YMMV.
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Most of the "new tubes" used in the amps require an adapter. Most of the adapters have compensation networks included to change specific parameters of the tubes opertaion .... so the tube operates as required in the circuit. The 5687 adapter, for instance, has a network that prevents oscillation as well as providing circuit compensation. As you know, some tubes are electrically identical and only need the adapter to provide the correct base and pin out; example 6sn7> 7n7. But understand, many tubes will not work at all or some will only work in certain amps under certain conditions; examples provided below.
Singlepower also recommends you dont try to use a SP adapter in another manufacturer's amp without consulting BOTH the said manufacturer and SP to determine compatability.
Now .... some tubes just wont work period because they have to much gain and / or to little current drive; example 12ax7.
Some tubes wont work because they draw to much current and will fry the amps resistors even though the amps tube sockets have the correct pin out and the amps transformer can handle the heater current draw; example 6as7 output tubes in the Supra's.
Some tubes work only in combination with certain other tubes; example the 6su7gty/ 6080 in the Extreme.
Now lets be more specific with some examples. Lets look at the 6414>6bl7gta combo @ 300 volts in the first new chassis MPX3's. This combination works very well in this amp. The 6bl7gta tube, however, sounds awful using the typical lower gain 6sn7gt running at the same 300 volts in this vintage MPX3; because the tube is underdriven. This 6414>6bl7gta combo works extremely well in the SLAM SE @ 300 volts and even better at 375+ volts .... with the standard SE bias. Up the bias on a SLAM SE like mine that has a manual bias control using this 6414>6bl7gta combo @ 375 volts .... and you will overdrive the output tubes.
Therefore and understandably, if you arent following the tube substitution threads closely and receiving information regarding tube compatibility from the manufacturer .... about your specfic and often custom amp .... these tube subs may appear "willy nilly" .... but they are not.