Earbuds Round-Up
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:12 PM Post #23,056 of 75,407
DIY Graphene and PT15 share a lot of common traits, so yes, I'll say they are much more like sidegrade of each other than upgrade

Compared to PT15 / DIY Graphene, Nameless is tuned a littler smoother overall. But as far as overall sound quality goes, they are more or less at around the same level. Nameless is mainly a more relaxing earbud to listen to while PT15 / DIY Graphene are more aggressive i, their presentation.

All three are decent for Classical, through I won't say anyone of them can be considered as a Classical specialist. I am more inclined to recommend you to spend a little bit more for VX Pro instead.

how does the graphene's tuning, soundstage and resolution compared to the VX Pro? i already have the VX and PT15, so i think we can use them as point of reference
 
Sep 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM Post #23,057 of 75,407
I thought the Samsara seemed overpriced? - hence i opted for K's K300 for $16 which sound good - after being re-cabled for balanced output. They are plain matte black with a K's inscription. Your flagship version should be the same as pictured with white inscriptions etc....Kinda glad i chose the cheaper version!

Dont be mistaken, even though I am disappointed that they are not as pictured the sound that comes out of them is most certainly deserving of the price. You can buy tons of cheap buds that may even be 85% of a totl bud but that little extra 15% will surprise you.
 
Sep 18, 2017 at 10:12 PM Post #23,058 of 75,407
I gotta say, this is an amazing time to be a frugal earbud shopper. I really can't believe how good buds, such as the EMX500's and DIY Graphenes, sound. They both bring me joy that does not involve breaking the bank. Consider me happy! :)
 
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Sep 18, 2017 at 11:47 PM Post #23,059 of 75,407
I think that Graphene, having a more expansive sound-stage, are an upgrade compared to PT15. I'm still considering Moondrop - what are the attributes of VX Pro in contrast to Nameless?

how does the graphene's tuning, soundstage and resolution compared to the VX Pro? i already have the VX and PT15, so i think we can use them as point of reference

I didn't hear a much better soundstage on DIY Graphene over PT15 - neither really has a very wide soundstage, but DIY Graphene does portrait height better than PT15, where PT15's soundstage tends to sound more 2D. The overall width on both are about average IMO, where DIY Graphene might give 'bigger' sensation not because it has a wider image, but because its has a fuller lower range that tends to fill in the same 'space' better than PT15. On the other hand, one can say PT15 has a deeper background for the same reason. As far as VX Pro goes, I think as far as soundstage is concerned, it is about 20% larger than either PT15 or DIY Graphene to my ears - and thanks to that wider image, detail tends to sound more resolved from one another. That is, there is more 'space' between each individual note to zoom into.
 
Sep 19, 2017 at 4:57 AM Post #23,062 of 75,407
Just receive Itxin EV-2 earbud (Korean) I must say that such a great earbud for price in budget-range (listed price is ~ 18$ in Korea, I got mine 9$)
Just a few minutes of impression: a big sound, punchy, well-balanced and "enough" bass when using with full foam (Korean reviews were mostly done with X-type foam or donut foam)
I just currently have Tomahawk, EO320 and RX-1 to compare:
-It has much bigger bass with deeper extension than Tomahawk and RX-1, bass quantity can be a just little bit lesser than EO320 but more punchy and slam.
-Clarity and detail is really good, much better than EO320 (even when EO320 using donut foam), on pared with RX-1, sound is more natural than Tomahawk.
-Sound-stage is sustainable, not as wide as Tomahawk, however, make me more enjoyable than the "diluted" and "back-of-head" feeling of Tomahawk.
It's is my favorite, remind me the memory of old Baldoor E100, but with less hash and more precise sound.
EMX500 is on the way to come, I will have nice reference to compare.

Burning begins.....
 
Sep 19, 2017 at 6:25 AM Post #23,063 of 75,407
I didn't hear a much better soundstage on DIY Graphene over PT15 - neither really has a very wide soundstage, but DIY Graphene does portrait height better than PT15, where PT15's soundstage tends to sound more 2D. The overall width on both are about average IMO, where DIY Graphene might give 'bigger' sensation not because it has a wider image, but because its has a fuller lower range that tends to fill in the same 'space' better than PT15. On the other hand, one can say PT15 has a deeper background for the same reason. As far as VX Pro goes, I think as far as soundstage is concerned, it is about 20% larger than either PT15 or DIY Graphene to my ears - and thanks to that wider image, detail tends to sound more resolved from one another. That is, there is more 'space' between each individual note to zoom into.
Thanks for clarifying! -
Just received **** PK2S. First impression after 5 seconds of listening: these things have a TRANSPARENT sound. Very holographic.

And I am happy :)
How do they compare with original PK2? - poor bass/crackling at high volumes....
 
Sep 19, 2017 at 7:25 AM Post #23,064 of 75,407
I didn't hear a much better soundstage on DIY Graphene over PT15 - neither really has a very wide soundstage, but DIY Graphene does portrait height better than PT15, where PT15's soundstage tends to sound more 2D. The overall width on both are about average IMO, where DIY Graphene might give 'bigger' sensation not because it has a wider image, but because its has a fuller lower range that tends to fill in the same 'space' better than PT15. On the other hand, one can say PT15 has a deeper background for the same reason. As far as VX Pro goes, I think as far as soundstage is concerned, it is about 20% larger than either PT15 or DIY Graphene to my ears - and thanks to that wider image, detail tends to sound more resolved from one another. That is, there is more 'space' between each individual note to zoom into.
Thanks for clarifying! - i agree that the presentation of lower range frequencies (+ mids) are resolved better by Graphene, imo i think PT15 might be better suited to being converted to balanced output - i'll re-cable MMCX soon to try them out. In amongst the layering & micro detail - what is the VX Pro bass/sub-bass response like?
 
Sep 19, 2017 at 8:38 AM Post #23,065 of 75,407
Thanks for clarifying! - i agree that the presentation of lower range frequencies (+ mids) are resolved better by Graphene, imo i think PT15 might be better suited to being converted to balanced output - i'll re-cable MMCX soon to try them out. In amongst the layering & micro detail - what is the VX Pro bass/sub-bass response like?

Between DIY Graphene and PT15, I'll say VX Pro's bass region is similar to that of DIY Graphene rather than PT15.
 
Sep 19, 2017 at 9:06 AM Post #23,067 of 75,407
I didn't hear a much better soundstage on DIY Graphene over PT15 - neither really has a very wide soundstage, but DIY Graphene does portrait height better than PT15, where PT15's soundstage tends to sound more 2D. The overall width on both are about average IMO, where DIY Graphene might give 'bigger' sensation not because it has a wider image, but because its has a fuller lower range that tends to fill in the same 'space' better than PT15. On the other hand, one can say PT15 has a deeper background for the same reason. As far as VX Pro goes, I think as far as soundstage is concerned, it is about 20% larger than either PT15 or DIY Graphene to my ears - and thanks to that wider image, detail tends to sound more resolved from one another. That is, there is more 'space' between each individual note to zoom into.
Coming from vido, should I go for graphene/docomo/ vx prio/ emx500 ?
 
Sep 19, 2017 at 10:07 AM Post #23,069 of 75,407
Just receive Itxin EV-2 earbud (Korean) I must say that such a great earbud for price in budget-range (listed price is ~ 18$ in Korea, I got mine 9$)
Just a few minutes of impression: a big sound, punchy, well-balanced and "enough" bass when using with full foam (Korean reviews were mostly done with X-type foam or donut foam)
I just currently have Tomahawk, EO320 and RX-1 to compare:
-It has much bigger bass with deeper extension than Tomahawk and RX-1, bass quantity can be a just little bit lesser than EO320 but more punchy and slam.
-Clarity and detail is really good, much better than EO320 (even when EO320 using donut foam), on pared with RX-1, sound is more natural than Tomahawk.
-Sound-stage is sustainable, not as wide as Tomahawk, however, make me more enjoyable than the "diluted" and "back-of-head" feeling of Tomahawk.
It's is my favorite, remind me the memory of old Baldoor E100, but with less hash and more precise sound.
EMX500 is on the way to come, I will have nice reference to compare.

Burning begins.....
http://www.ixtin.com/ixtin/front/earphoneList.php
 
Sep 19, 2017 at 10:08 AM Post #23,070 of 75,407
Coming from vido, should I go for graphene/docomo/ vx prio/ emx500 ?
Graphene next logical step up....
EMX500 is would have lesser but tighter bass than Vido but it also has extended highs.
GMX760 (Graphene) for me wouldn't necessarily be a "step up" because it has a different sound signature but it is still a worthwhile pair to own.
 

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