[Stillhart]

Down grade in what aspect? If you want more bass it could be an "upgrade" in enjoyment.

 
By that logic, Beats is an upgrade from the 800S. 

  If you're posing your question as "which is better" I think it's understood that we're talking about everything from build quality to detail to tonality, etc.  If you're asking which has more bass, yes, the Elear has more bass.  
 
Overall, I think the HD800S is more detailed/resolving and has a more balanced FR.  The Elear isn't bad by any means, but I don't think it's up to par with the 800/800S.  It's a "fun" headphone with a bass-heavy FR and it's not the most resolving, though it's resolving enough for most mid-fi gear.  It doesn't scale up as much as the HD800/S either.
 

That comments was made on the audio head review. Could have been their Utopia review though.

http://audio-head.com/focal-elear-headphone-review/

 
That's my review and I don't recall calling these headphones more comfortable that the HD800 (because I don't think they are).  They're very comfortable, but so are the 800's.

 

[TSAVJason]

By that logic, Beats is an upgrade from the 800S.    If you're posing your question as "which is better" I think it's understood that we're talking about everything from build quality to detail to tonality, etc.  If you're asking which has more bass, yes, the Elear has more bass.  

Overall, I think the HD800S is more detailed/resolving and has a more balanced FR.  The Elear isn't bad by any means, but I don't think it's up to par with the 800/800S.  It's a "fun" headphone with a bass-heavy FR and it's not the most resolving, though it's resolving enough for most mid-fi gear.  It doesn't scale up as much as the HD800/S either.


That's my review and I don't recall calling these headphones more comfortable that the HD800 (because I don't think they are).  They're very comfortable, but so are the 800's.

Hahaha Stillhart is on a roll today ....:thumbsup_tone1:

 

[grizzlybeast]

Elear is def not as comfortable as 800S

 

[Sophonax]

Tyll's Elear review is up here!

 

[FastAndClean]

 

[james6333]

By that logic, Beats is an upgrade from the 800S.    If you're posing your question as "which is better" I think it's understood that we're talking about everything from build quality to detail to tonality, etc.  If you're asking which has more bass, yes, the Elear has more bass.  

Overall, I think the HD800S is more detailed/resolving and has a more balanced FR.  The Elear isn't bad by any means, but I don't think it's up to par with the 800/800S.  It's a "fun" headphone with a bass-heavy FR and it's not the most resolving, though it's resolving enough for most mid-fi gear.  It doesn't scale up as much as the HD800/S either.


That's my review and I don't recall calling these headphones more comfortable that the HD800 (because I don't think they are).  They're very comfortable, but so are the 800's.
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By that logic, Beats is an upgrade from the 800S.    If you're posing your question as "which is better" I think it's understood that we're talking about everything from build quality to detail to tonality, etc.  If you're asking which has more bass, yes, the Elear has more bass.  

Overall, I think the HD800S is more detailed/resolving and has a more balanced FR.  The Elear isn't bad by any means, but I don't think it's up to par with the 800/800S.  It's a "fun" headphone with a bass-heavy FR and it's not the most resolving, though it's resolving enough for most mid-fi gear.  It doesn't scale up as much as the HD800/S either.


That's my review and I don't recall calling these headphones more comfortable that the HD800 (because I don't think they are).  They're very comfortable, but so are the 800's.

Yes that is what I was asking in a smart ass way lol. Just some times people value one aspect so greatly that they devalue other items

I am not a die hard audiophile these days (used to be) and now I dot mind a little color now and then which is why the Elear interest me.

 

[Mediahound]

 

Nice.
 
(I keep waiting for him to say 'see you at the next booth'). 

 

[raypin]

mmmm.....so, the Elear is the equal of the HE 1000, wipes the HD 600 off the floor, sideswipes the HD 800 S, the Audeze LCD X  and the Ether but comes up short of the Utopia.
 
Change is coming and it is good. There's a new sheriff in town........deal with it.  lol!
 
P.S. now about the early critics.......<rolleyes>.

 

[PeteSTRADAMUS]

  Nice.
 
(I keep waiting for him to say 'see you at the next booth'). 

I will definitely check this out after my rodeo at the office. I like this person's reviews. Been following myself for quite a while. 

 

[Beagle]

Would be nice if they became available sometime this century...

 

[raypin]

ot: mmm.....I also follow his WOF advice and my small collection  of HPs mirrors his WOF. Looks like I may end up with both the Elear and Utopia and cull the herd (the HD 800 but not the S and maybe the LCD X but not the 3F).  

 

[james6333]

Tyll's Elear review is up here!

Wow want a review. He pretty much compared them to everything I would want to compare them with. I find it interesting he wants even more bass?!?

Sadly these are going to hard to get ahold of now.

.... Now to buy these or the Flows... That is the question for me.

 

[PeteSTRADAMUS]

Wow want a review. He pretty much compared them to everything I would want to compare them with. I find it interesting he wants even more bass?!?

Sadly these are going to hard to get ahold of now.

.... Now to buy these or the Flows... That is the question for me.

Yeah, i'm confused at the bass part myself. Because all you ever hear about these is that they are excellent on the bass section. Hmm
Maybe i'm just nitpicking. But until i hear for myself i guess i'll never know. 

 

[Stillhart]

Wow want a review. He pretty much compared them to everything I would want to compare them with. I find it interesting he wants even more bass?!?

Sadly these are going to hard to get ahold of now.

.... Now to buy these or the Flows... That is the question for me.

 
I think the Flow is a better headphone overall.  But it should be for 80% more... nothing wrong with that IMO.
 
BTW, anyone in SoCal can hear both the Focals and the new Flows at The Source A/V on Saturday.

 

[guitarrules]

Any changes to the cable being made by focal?